I know S6's can be ordered with custom rates and I believe BC can be as well. What maximum rates are available for each? BC is supposedly also has more adjustability and allows for a greater range in stiffness, but exactly how much does each system let you soften/tighten it up. I'm not real keen on suspension but lets say you order 12kg/mm front springs. By setting it on the dampeners softest setting isn't it basically having the same effect as lowering the spring rate in terms of riding comfort? Any insight into this would be helpful. Thanks in advance.

 

Buddy clubs will be able to hold stiffer rates becuse i believe the valving is 45mm and the S6's are 42mm. or the Buddy clubs are 47, and the thein RA's are 45 and the S6's are 42. I forget. the S6's are full aluminum construction and are lighter. less unsprung weight-> better,more precise handling. Supposedly, the adjustability of the Buddy Clubs ARE better, from what I hear. AJR puts the Buddy Clubs above the S6'S.

 

Yeah I'm aware of the main features of the two (has only been covered 1,000times), but I still haven't found out the max spring rates each can hold.

 

what exactly are you trying to accomplish? All of the shocks mentioned in this thread are made for track use only. None of the valving will hold up to street use well. It can be done but isn't the best idea.

Plus a 12kg/mm on the softest shock in the world will be a kidney killer

 

Hey here's a good idea. If you aren't going to answer my question STFU. Do you know what I'm going to be using it for? Is it actually possible that I could just be interested in what each setup is good for in terms of spring rates? What if I do want to run it on the street? Last time I checked it was my car. Some of us don't mind having it alittle rough for an edge on the track. I bet 90% of you would say running open header on the street is out of the question and way too loud. Well I've done it for 2 months strait with several 3hr non-stop trips to boot. Don't assume what I can or can't take.

to you for not answering an extremely reasonable question about suspension.

<knows of people that run close to 900lb springs on the street.

 

You should save the hammers for the nails.

I was asking questions so I could give educated and helpful feedback. I run TEIN HA's with 8/6 kg springs and they are more than enough. Does that mean I could take more sure, I run an ATS FD with an R 5th gear running 5000 rpms at 80 mph.

Does running 15kg/mm springs make the setup better than one that runs 12kg/mm or even one with 8kg/mm? HELL NO, so maybe you should get the chip off your sholder or STFU yourself.

I would say running spring rates that high are not always the best setup for even the track and I know of a few ECHC racers that would likely agree.

For a str4ee/auto-x/track car it is about compromise. And running open header . . . Why?

 

To answer your question, NO. Reducing the damping of the shock will not reduce the rate of the srping and the ride at rates that high will marginally if even noticable at all will NOT be better.

That more what you wanted?

 

After re-reading this I can see how you might have taken my statemenst as an attack. BY accomplish I meant what are your plans for the car. . . .

My bad for the wording but you should really watch the chip.

 

Are you asking what the dampers can handle without being over-exerted or are you simply asking how high you can get springrates?

Getting custom springs wound isn't a problem for basically any application. You can go as high as your tushy can manage.

 

You should be able to go 20kg/mm without needing to re-valve, but what Trey (Asahi) said holds true for the street.

 

it's not that bad, i run 12k/10 w/ pillowballs in my car on the street. you just gotta watch for square edged bumps. as far as driving everyday? doable, but it get's annoying after a while.

 

Definitely doable. Didn't mean to imply it wasn't. Annoying is a great way to put it.

 

Sorry about snapping at you. Just thought you meant it the wrong way.