Ok guy this is what I have so far
-eagle rod
-srp 81.25 pistons
-arp head bolts and rod bolts
-edelbrock victor x intake manifold
-70mm throttle body
-ACL racing bearing
-hondata s300
Ok my question is is a guy selling a turbonetics 1-60 t3/t4 60mm with a turbonetics waster gate both for $500 they have less then 1,000 mile is that a good price and if that a good turbo for my setup my goal is around 450 to the wheels I still need a block guard what block guard u guys recommend me thank u for the help guys

 

Silly people, still thinking block guards are a good idea...If you don't want to spend the money on real sleeving, then get CCS, or don't get anything. I don't know much about the 60-1, but some simple research that anyone could have done (including yourself) says that it'll reach your goal just fine.

 

Sorry for the ?? But why block guard ate not good and what is ccs?

 

CSS (not CCS, my mistake) - Cylinder Support System

Block guards are bad. They restrict coolant flow, cause hot spots on your cylinder walls, and only hold the pressure in one specific point - it doesn't protect the REST of the sleeve from shitting on you.

 

And what u think about the turbo they are selling me

 

And CSS any matching shop can do or I have to send my block to the guys in that website

 

You have to send it to them. More importantly, if you want CSS, you want to send it to them. They know what they're doing - there are very few shops I would trust with something as sensitive as sleeving. If I'm using Darton sleeves, the block is going to Darton. If I'm using GE sleeves, the block goes to GE. See where I'm going with this? They made them, they tested them, and they'll be the best at installing them.

Value depends entirely too much on the condition of the turbo (and hey, everyone's selling something that's as good as it was when they bought it), but it should get the power you want.

 

Ok I get what u say I be calling the shop a soon I take the engine apart thank u

 

That doesn't seem like that good of a price for that turbo. It was probably 6-7 hundred new and now its used.

 

Ok bro I google and they was for 870-900

 

Yeah, the units I've found are hanging around the $1000 mark.

 

CSS is the way to go, cheap alternative to sleeving and they guarantee to 500hp but are proven to hold to 800+.... But they warranty 500/or 1 year of sleeve cracking. Good product for less then 400$ in total!

You can find people who give up there turbo builds and let all of there stuff go for shorts. That deal is not worth taking unless you can get it for around 700.

Happy boosting

 

Uh, Keegan, he just said he could get them both for $500, so...it's not a good deal unless he's paying $200 more than that? Wut?

 

The eagle rods already have ARP bolts... Making whatever rod bolts you purchased (probably for the stock rods) worthless.

 

didn't read that he was getting them for 500 lol

 

I lower the price to $400 lol I am gettin the part tomorrow morning

 

I hate to be the bearer of good news for the block guard but I've ran them many engines with success before i could afford sleeves. I've made 440whp using a block guard running at daily autobahn speed with zero issues. guess which part failed 3 times? my precision turbo wheel snapping off.

 

440whp means nothing. What was the wtq? Prob around 270ish wtq right? Thats fine for stock sleeves. Above 300wtq is when they start cracking easier

 

Power doesn't break internals... Cylinder pressure does. And since cylinder pressure directly correlates to torque... Well I think you can figure the rest out.

 

Exactly. Once Tony the tiger clued me in on that everything else made more sense. Now I can happily run over 50whp higher without worrying aboyt my stock sleeves