1990 Civic Hatchback 4speed Grinding 3rd gear

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Old May 21, 2014 | 07:00 AM
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Default 1990 Civic Hatchback 4speed Grinding 3rd gear

I have a base model 1990 Civic Hatchback...When going into 3rd gear from 2nd ...gear grinds slightly...doesn't do it when descending from 4th....I just bought the car and know a mechanic who can fix for cheap....My question is should I replace the clutch or the transmission and if so the transmission.....should I go with 5-speed instead of OEM 4speed ?


Also, the clutch is also very touchy to engage...I have to ride it out in 1st and 2nd or the car will sputter as if not giving it enough gas.

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Old May 21, 2014 | 07:10 AM
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It's most likely just a worn synchronizer. Not a huge deal as long as the car still shifts easily enough for you. If you insist on replacing the transmission, yes. I would replace it with a five speed cable transmission.
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Old May 21, 2014 | 07:12 AM
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Default Re: 1990 Civic Hatchback 4speed Grinding 3rd gear

You may try just draining all the old fluid out of the transmission and refilling with a high quality fluid like Red Line MTL. On more than one occasion, I've had this completely eliminate scratching synchros.
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Old May 21, 2014 | 07:25 AM
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Default Re: 1990 Civic Hatchback 4speed Grinding 3rd gear

Thanks

That's whats my buddy was saying worn sync rows and if I wanted to eliminate this problem long term go with carbon sync rows when I replace the trans, clutch, etc. ? Definitely going to replace the trans and clutch this weekend if I can find a 5-speed



Originally Posted by SpeedOFsmell
It's most likely just a worn synchronizer. Not a huge deal as long as the car still shifts easily enough for you. If you insist on replacing the transmission, yes. I would replace it with a five speed cable transmission.
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Old May 21, 2014 | 08:46 AM
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Default Re: 1990 Civic Hatchback 4speed Grinding 3rd gear

Yes if you rebuild a transmission, it's worth it to go with some synchrotech carbon lined synchros or similar, but I wouldn't dump that money into a 4 speed.
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Old May 24, 2014 | 04:52 AM
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Default Re: 1990 Civic Hatchback 4speed Grinding 3rd gear

just an observation here,not saying this is your issue. Every transmission i have ever taken apart for my civic or crx has not had a syncro problem but rather a broken shift fork issue, they break at the ends of the forks so you dont get a straight engagement as the fork is only holding half the sleeve instead of the 3/4s that it is supposed too. Thus it grinds into usually 3rd. it took me 3 transmissions to get one full set of unbroken forks. either way you got to go in there to fix it so ya just rebuild it all... but the 5 speed would be a no brainier if your gonna take it out.
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Old May 24, 2014 | 06:13 PM
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Default Re: 1990 Civic Hatchback 4speed Grinding 3rd gear

Originally Posted by SpeedOFsmell
You may try just draining all the old fluid out of the transmission and refilling with a high quality fluid like Red Line MTL. On more than one occasion, I've had this completely eliminate scratching synchros.
This, but I'll add that if you put in half a bottle of Redline Lightweight Shockproof , it will eliminate that grind positively. I've used this stuff on numerous Subarus, Hondas, and my Celica AllTrac. It had a NASTY grind going into 3rd from 4th. I changed the trans fluid and added the Shockproof, no grind at all now.



I would try the Shockproof, but if you wind up having to pull the trans out for any reason just swap a 5 speed into it.
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Old May 25, 2014 | 09:10 AM
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Default Re: 1990 Civic Hatchback 4speed Grinding 3rd gear

good info
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Old May 25, 2014 | 11:23 AM
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Default Re: 1990 Civic Hatchback 4speed Grinding 3rd gear

I had a 3rd gear grind on my b16 cable tranny. I decided to blame it on synchros so i bought synchrotech 3/4 carbon synchros with the hardened sleeve.

Turns out the synchros looked good but the sleeve teeth were worn out. I replaced the synchros and sleeve, and bam that tranny shifts smoothly as hell.
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Old Jun 2, 2014 | 10:22 AM
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Default Re: 1990 Civic Hatchback 4speed Grinding 3rd gear

No longer a problem, appreciate all the hope folks, but my EF 1990 Civic Hatch Base was TOTALED 5-25-14. Driver failed to yield on a left hand turn....I was headed west bound and he was going east bound turning left headed north...apparently didn't see me. I went through the intersection and out of no where car turns right in front of me...BAM!!! Radiator was leaking...hood was bent up in the form of a triangle...no injuries....on to a new daily driver.

I am now going to look at and almost positively purchase 2002 Acura RSX base model 5-speed!!!
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