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Old Mar 14, 2014 | 03:48 AM
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I'm curious to hear from others revving past 9000.

My setup is an 83mm b16, sleeved block, pauter rods, z10 girdle, s366.
Head will have ferrea 6000 valves, supertech 85# springs, itr cams. It had rev valves and springs and at 9500 I had valve to valve contact. Obviously it was down on power on that pull but the pull on 24# before this happened, we only pulled to 9000 and it was still making power. It's a track car so I'm not afraid to turn it to 10k if it's making power that high, assuming it's going to stay together. The only reason I can see how the valves hit are from valve float, which is why I'm replacing the springs. Just curious to hear from others revving high with success.
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Old Mar 14, 2014 | 04:20 AM
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What i was always told is that as long as its still making power, you should be fine. I personally rev my car to 9500. My car is mostly street driven. I know that more of the mainly just drag racing cars rev higher, but theyll have to chime in on that.
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Old Mar 14, 2014 | 04:30 AM
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Supertech 85# springs in motor revving to 10k+ with no issues
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Old Mar 14, 2014 | 04:47 AM
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What cams are you running? Did you check v2v clearence? What size valves ? I'm currently running GSC valves and cams with supertech 85lb springs to 10k rpm
No issues.
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Old Mar 14, 2014 | 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbo-LS
What cams are you running? Did you check v2v clearence? What size valves ? I'm currently running GSC valves and cams with supertech 85lb springs to 10k rpm
No issues.
Just itr cams. Std size valves. I didn't check any clearances since I bought the long block assembled. I didn't figure itr cams were big enough to cause an issue. Only two valves had contact.

Yeah I don't plan to rev higher than it makes power but like I said, at 9k on 24# it was still climbing. I plan to go up to around 35# if the turbo will make it so as long as it doesn't hit a restriction I figure it will make power til 9500 or more. I just don't want to keep damaging valves. I won't rev it that high if it's going to be an issue. I'm not trying to break records or anything. Afterall it's just a b16. I'm just running the car for fun.

I'm hoping since I bought the motor assembled that someone made a mistake, or that the rev valves just weren't good enough, even though I've heard they're the same as supertech. I'm also adding a vibrant tensioner since the belt flopped around a lot at high rpms. It may or may not help, but I felt it was cheap insurance.
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Old Mar 14, 2014 | 06:54 AM
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Dsport did a similar build a few years back, with the same rod and blox type A cams. i can remember the valves or spring off the top of my head but their whole reason for using a b16 was the lower piston mean speed. which means less likely to fail at higher rpm. they were going to 10,500rpm. i know a few of the top guys like Locash and Indub are were going to like 11,500rpm in gsr blocks with turbo tuffs.
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Old Mar 14, 2014 | 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by civic-steve-94
Dsport did a similar build a few years back, with the same rod and blox type A cams. i can remember the valves or spring off the top of my head but their whole reason for using a b16 was the lower piston mean speed. which means less likely to fail at higher rpm. they were going to 10,500rpm. i know a few of the top guys like Locash and Indub are were going to like 11,500rpm in gsr blocks with turbo tuffs.
Yeah I know the b16 has a much better rod to stroke ratio. I'm honestly not worried about the bottom end. I'm more concerned with bending a valve again lol. Something I noticed was that the rev valves I had have a slightly larger face than the ferreas. I almost feel like the ferreas wouldn't have hit like the revs did. The contact mark was so tiny that the small difference in face diameter would have probably prevented it.
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Old Mar 14, 2014 | 06:26 PM
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The guys that did that Dsport build used kibblewhite valves and port flow springs and retainers
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Old Mar 14, 2014 | 06:32 PM
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Supertech 85lb springs should be plenty for you.
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