Ok so as I posted before id like to boost my em1 b16 since from what all the veterans and pros have posted a fully built b16 has no power or torque and I agree with that. So my question to u guys is I'm currently saving my money to boost my Em1 in the future so pretty much what I wanted to know is if it's worth it to just fully build the head, the whole valve train cams and gears etc. and replace my pistons and rods with new oem ones for now and drive around for a few months like that till I can fully build and boost it all at once or should I get supertech pistons with a 81.5 bore and a 9:5 compression non sleeved block with rods bearings etc. with my fully built head non boosted till I "have enough" for boost. Pretty much trying to see if it's possible to fully build my motor bottom and top end and boost it in like 5-6 days max? Got a buddy who can fully build my motor in "3 days" not including the turbo.

Oh I'm not tying to make this a race car just want to have fun with my em1 and have a decent quick street car I can mess with incase mustangs wanna *** around with me. I want to make at least 400whp nothing too serious.

What would be the best thing to do guys ur input would be appreciated.
Thx.

 

IM going to tell you like this before this gets locked.


Read the FAQ's in this forum

research read repeat

get your wallet up to spec.

make sure to find a qualified tuner and not some moron with a laptop who says he tunes.


Fast
Reliable
Cheap

pick 2 and the 3rd is what its not

 

do it right the first time, and this will be an easier more rewarding experience for you. if you don't have enough money to do it 2 times over, than don't do it at all, stuff happens; **** breaks!

 

Your right my dude totally agree with u. Right now my goal is to just work get on my hours get my money and save!!! Then when I feel like I have enough to the point where I can fix things incase sumn happens I'll go ahead and start my build. I'm probably just gonna go ahead and build my head and then block but of course there's little more important things required before starting the build like ecu and springs valves for the head etc. then the boost will come later down the road.

How much do U think is more than enough money to save up to fully build my b16 and potentially have some decent power all motor before I boost it? Gimmi an estimate

 

well, after this statement, it sounds like you have no plan whatsoever.


Now 400whp is over 500 to the crank. It should be no secret that a build like this is FAR from a street engine and will take some major cash to even comprehend the amount of quality parts needed for a 500+ HP engine. Your into race team territory.

If I were you I would set a REALISTIC goal and build towards it. Have you ever driven a 250hp civic? Keep it real and keep it simple.

Also, doubling-tripling- quadrupling the cars power of what it was designed for means your going to need handling upgrades amongst other upgrades.


Like I said before, research! these builds are all over HT and the internet.

 

Yes I've learned to set realistic goals. Obviously it's going to require lots of time and $$$$ so as for right now I'm setting little goals for myself which will be just to build my head and then so on. Boost will come later on.

 

400whp reliable... it can be done. Now it all depends on how its driven, how often its driven and how well its maintained. Every motor will blow. Its not a "if" its a "when". Pushing a 150hp motor 4 times its original whp rating will shorten the life of the engine no matter what you do. Sleeves, forged pistons, good rods, proper hardware ect... will help with its life. Also, how its built will play a HUGE factor. My civic with a ls and b16 woops on the 90's to early 2000 v8 stangs. Honestly, our cars are lighter so you dont need close to 400whp to beat on them.

 

my built ls/vtec makes 480whp and i have no concerns about it lasting at least 30k miles. only thing keeping me from driving it daily is the suspension setup, which i don't care to swap out.

if i were you i'd find something with more displacement to build on the side. Ls blocks are a dime a dozen and cheap.

 

^^a lot of good posts. Op if you want to go boost, that's okat but if u want a fast reliable street car just do a simple na build. Like someone said you don't need gobs of power. Just a responsive motor with short gears.

But if you want to do boost,

-grab an ls block and send it to css $700-$800 for a block that will withstand 500whp.

- used rods and pistons from a forum $300-$400 in great shape

- for the head do a supertech valve train, with some used skunk2 pro2 cams

- piece together a turbo kit, 3" intercooler piping gt35r turbo, and you should reach your goal.

- Don't forget to have a "real" tuner, tune the car, this is the most important process.

 

Thx man yea I'm gonna build my the head on my b16 and later boost it. Just setting simple goals for myself. I'll boost it later. Wanna get it built so it can be a reliable car

 

Oh and thx for the part names and price ranges bro

 

no problem man, just be on the forums a lot and you see a lot of good stuff for cheap. Check craigslist too. I highly recommend the css block its cheap and will hold more power guaranteed than what you want to make.

 

Most def bro. Just trying to hurry and get shyt done lol. So Fukin anxious to build my motor

 

^that's your first mistake, slow down and take the time to do it right bud.

 

Most def man.

What do u think about a fully built b16, is it worth it? Like I said before I want sumn fun and reliable. This car is a dd and I just want sumn to mess with locally.

 

400whp is ridiculous in a street Civic. Should be illegal!

 

Use a ls crank to get more displacement.

 

I mean thats cool, i highly recommend buying omnimans 200whp b16 dvd.

But for fun on the street just do a simple b20vtec with short gears with itr cams, youll love it.