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Old Dec 8, 2013 | 07:55 PM
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i am installing skunk2 cams and buddy club cam gears back into my b16a2 head they were already in the motor but i had new valves put in.

when i install the camshaft and try to position them at tdc they dont wanna sit flush in their places is that common i can slip them under the timing belt and install them that way but they dont wanna sit completely flush.
so what im asking is this normal.
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Old Dec 8, 2013 | 11:48 PM
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they will sit flush once tension is applied to them it takes a bit of playing around with.
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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 01:02 AM
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Sometimes they do wanna move around and not sit at tdc for you.
That is normal.
Sometimes I have some hold the cams still at tdc with a socket on each can I slide the belt on
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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by JDMswagSerf
Sometimes they do wanna move around and not sit at tdc for you.
That is normal.
Sometimes I have some hold the cams still at tdc with a socket on each can I slide the belt on
This worked pretty well for me.
Socket, screw driver, small pipe, etc.
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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 07:59 AM
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Default Re: cam install question.

Here is a link of a video of someone installing them let me know what you guys think.
He starts installing first cam at 0:55 seconds



That's the way I got them in

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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 08:01 AM
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lol what do brakes have to do with cam gears
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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by B_Swapped93
lol what do brakes have to do with cam gears
LOL idk why it linked that i didnt even watch that hahaha my bad here it isVV

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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 09:20 PM
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Old Dec 12, 2013 | 12:02 AM
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make it simple install the camshaft, torque to spec in sequence, then adjust the cam to tdc. simple as that!
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Old Dec 12, 2013 | 12:49 AM
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^^like frost_white say, install the cams and torque them. After that align them to TDC and put the belt.
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Old Dec 12, 2013 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by frost_white_ej1
make it simple install the camshaft, torque to spec in sequence, then adjust the cam to tdc. simple as that!
i cant get the cam caps to sit flush when i do it the way in the video
SO after i torque cams down with rails and caps i can turn each camshaft by the cam gear to tdc and slip belt on from there?? then slip belt on? i didnt think that would work..
do i keep all pistons in the middle of each stroke to not bend any valves? adjust the cams then crank it back to 1 tick on the crank pully and slip belt on?

also what are the 3 ticks a little bit farther down the crank pully should i be using those? im using the one alone.
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Old Dec 12, 2013 | 04:13 PM
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you're not going to bend valves turning the engine by hand. set the block to TDC then do as the video says what I do is install one at tdc (intake first) then do the other making little adjustments as I go it does take a few try's. yes the alone white one is the one you want or more simply drop a 3/8 12'' extension down the #1 spark plug well then turn it by hand to it's highest point.
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Old Dec 12, 2013 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by B_Swapped93
you're not going to bend valves turning the engine by hand. set the block to TDC then do as the video says what I do is install one at tdc (intake first) then do the other making little adjustments as I go it does take a few try's. yes the alone white one is the one you want or more simply drop a 3/8 12'' extension down the #1 spark plug well then turn it by hand to it's highest point.
ok i did that everything went well cams caps and rails torqued down to spec and flush to head. cams lubed up ect.

now ive ran into ANOTHER problem... i cant get tention on my timing belt.i put it on its tight on exhaust side but loose on intake side and doesnt tention correctly when i tighten tentioner. idk what im doing wrong. could it have possibly skipped below by the crank
i crnak engine over by hand everything stays put but it gets real loose then tight again then real loose then tight again
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Old Dec 12, 2013 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by hylaxrng

ok i did that everything went well cams caps and rails torqued down to spec and flush to head. cams lubed up ect.

now ive ran into ANOTHER problem... i cant get tention on my timing belt.i put it on its tight on exhaust side but loose on intake side and doesnt tention correctly when i tighten tentioner. idk what im doing wrong. could it have possibly skipped below by the crank
i crnak engine over by hand everything stays put but it gets real loose then tight again then real loose then tight again
what i usually do is use a racket and turn the exhaust cam clock wise untill it tighten a bit (not to much or else the crank will turn and have a chance the timing belt will jump a few teeth, the same goes for the intake side so all the slack will be on the tensioner, i then use a cloth hanger that i bend a small hook on the tip of it to pull the tensioner from the little hole that the spring hook up too upward, then i tighten the tensioner up (remember not to pull to hard because you do want the timing belt to have a small slack in it, if you chose to do it this way) pulling on it to tight will make it like a rubberband ready to snap once more pressure is upon it.
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Old Dec 15, 2013 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by frost_white_ej1
what i usually do is use a racket and turn the exhaust cam clock wise untill it tighten a bit (not to much or else the crank will turn and have a chance the timing belt will jump a few teeth, the same goes for the intake side so all the slack will be on the tensioner, i then use a cloth hanger that i bend a small hook on the tip of it to pull the tensioner from the little hole that the spring hook up too upward, then i tighten the tensioner up (remember not to pull to hard because you do want the timing belt to have a small slack in it, if you chose to do it this way) pulling on it to tight will make it like a rubberband ready to snap once more pressure is upon it.
i had to pull up on the gold hook thats above the tentioner attached to a spring and tightehten the 14mm adjust bolt while i held it up is that correct?
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Old Dec 16, 2013 | 04:54 AM
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I always have held the tensioner tight when I'm re-torqueing the bolt works every time for me. if you got it on and tight good.
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