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Old May 12, 2013 | 02:31 PM
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Ok i have a 98 civic ex... Im doing a rear disk conversion and got trailing arms off a 92 integra and im keeping the stock brakes for the front... I bought brand new everything pads, rotors, calipers, even stainless braided brake lines... Then i bleed the brakes a couple times and i have no brakes... pedal goes right to the floor... So then i changed my proportioning valve to a 00 civic SI also brand new... Bleed them several time again and still same problem... My next step is getting a brand new 00 civic SI master cylinder and seeing if thats the problem but if not then idk wat it could be cause everything is brand new... Please i need help any suggestions...

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Old May 12, 2013 | 02:46 PM
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You may still have air in the lines.

Or the first time you bled the brakes you may not have topped the resevior off enough and pushed the diaphragm in the MC too far causing it to fail. Soooo the new MC may fix your problem just dont F that one up
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Old May 12, 2013 | 02:53 PM
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Yea i bleed them plenty times and no air or leaks... And i put bottle of brake fluid upside down in resevior... Im gonna get a new m/c and hope it works... I wonder if i need a bigger m/c like would a new integra m/c and booster work? Or should i just get it from a 00 SI
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Old May 12, 2013 | 03:07 PM
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you can use another ex MC. the EX master cylinders and prop valves are the same as the SI on sixth gens
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Old May 12, 2013 | 03:24 PM
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What order are you bleeding them in? Should be RR, LF, LR, RF. If you're bleeding them in the traditional furthest from the MC first method they'll never bleed.
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Old May 12, 2013 | 04:21 PM
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I thought it was RR, LR,Rf,LR
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Old May 12, 2013 | 04:31 PM
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My bad RR,LR,Rf,LF
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Old May 12, 2013 | 05:49 PM
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Yeah, your bleeding order is wrong. Honda set the brake circuits up in a diagonal pattern so if you bust a line you have a working front and rear brake on opposites sides. Bleeding the way you are just pushes the fluid around. Do it the way I posted earlier and it should bleed.
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Old May 12, 2013 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 94EG8
Honda set the brake circuits up in a diagonal pattern so if you bust a line you have a working front and rear brake on opposites sides. Bleeding the way you are just pushes the fluid around.

Really? maybe that should be added somewhere in the FAQ. I didn't see that in either of the stickied threads in there. Not arguing just trying to clear up some possibly conflicting info
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Old May 12, 2013 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by emergencybm
Really?
Yes, see this excerpt taken directly from the factory service manual:



Originally Posted by emergencybm
maybe that should be added somewhere in the FAQ. I didn't see that in either of the stickied threads in there. Not arguing just trying to clear up some possibly conflicting info
I haven't looked but it's probably buried in there somewhere. I will try to remember to check later though and add it if it's not there.
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Old May 12, 2013 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 94EG8
I haven't looked but it's probably buried in there somewhere. I will try to remember to check later though and add it if it's not there.
Thank you sir!
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Old May 12, 2013 | 06:46 PM
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Your biggest problem is thinking that breaks will stop your car. You need brakes.
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Old May 12, 2013 | 07:07 PM
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Thanks for the info guys... Ill try to bleed them again...
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Old May 12, 2013 | 08:22 PM
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If that doesn't work try ^,v,^,v,<,>,<,>,b,a, then start your car. This should give you an infinite amount of brake power
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