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Old Feb 8, 2013 | 07:55 PM
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Hello folks and thanks in advance for your replies and suggestions!!

I have a 91 accord, with a full h22a swap, I just swapped my tranny from an old F to a newer 99' m2a4 lude tranny. I needed a new slave cylinder so I bought that, and began what I thought was sucessful bleeding of my brand new exedy clutch.

I added clutch fluid (dot 3) and had my girl pump the clutch rapidly.. After 20 or so times, I had her hold it in and I openned the bleeder nipple to let the air out. I did this about 40 times and I literaly went from no clutch to a half decent clutch that was now able to move my car. (Not sure if this is important but I bled the clutch with the car running.) I drove it around the block and parked it. Tonight (after this wicked snow storm) I went out and dug her out of the snow, and decided why not a few more rounds around the block? Well, I grabbed the shifter and tried to go for first and I hit (what felt like) a brick wall. I had this issue before with my old slave cylinder after the clutch install. I waited for the car to get completely warm, and still nothing. Infact when I try to go for any gear the rpm's drop slightly. Im imagining the flywheel and clutch are not seperating enough, but how?

My question is, why is it doing this now? I checked the clutch fluid resevoir and it doesn't seem to be any lower in fluid? Someone help, this is racking my brain completely.
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Old Feb 8, 2013 | 08:25 PM
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Hoping someone can help me figure this mess out. I really don't wanna have to bleed again, and I'm honestly leaning towards a leak in one of the connections where air is getting in..
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Old Feb 8, 2013 | 11:38 PM
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If I remember right, and I'm surprised I don't but I only needed to bleed my clutch once, you should open the bleeder, then push the clutch, then tighten the bleeder, then pull the clutch pedal back and redo again.

This is opposite of the brakes which you push and hold, open the bleeder, the pedal falls to the floor, then you close and pull the pedal back and redo.

Try that way and see what happens.
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Old Feb 9, 2013 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by holmesnmanny
If I remember right, and I'm surprised I don't but I only needed to bleed my clutch once, you should open the bleeder, then push the clutch, then tighten the bleeder, then pull the clutch pedal back and redo again.

This is opposite of the brakes which you push and hold, open the bleeder, the pedal falls to the floor, then you close and pull the pedal back and redo.

Try that way and see what happens.
I'm gonna try this today! I'll let you know what happens. Thanks alot!
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Old Feb 9, 2013 | 11:58 AM
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So, no pressure is lost from not having the bleeder nipple open? I was always leary of even unscrewing it too much, but if its sole purpose is to JUST get air out then I guess I have been way wrong.

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Old Feb 9, 2013 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by h22 civic
pretty simple and fast fill your reserve up get a peice of vacum hose to fit snug over the bleeder screw get a full can of fluid stick rthe other end of the vac hose all the way to the botttom of the can of fluid make sure it stays all the way down open the bleeder screw go in your car and pump away once solid tighten bleeder screw and your off
I followed his foot steps and I got a LITTLE further, this is crazy I absolutely hate bleeding this stupid clutch, I'm almost ready to send it to a shop.
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Old Feb 9, 2013 | 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by holmesnmanny
If I remember right, and I'm surprised I don't but I only needed to bleed my clutch once, you should open the bleeder, then push the clutch, then tighten the bleeder, then pull the clutch pedal back and redo again.

This is opposite of the brakes which you push and hold, open the bleeder, the pedal falls to the floor, then you close and pull the pedal back and redo.

Try that way and see what happens.
I tried this, and it seems to be a bit better. I tightened all connections and it doesn't seem to leak anymore. I openned the bleeder nipple, had my girl push the clutch down, then I tightened the bleeder nipple and had her pull it back up. I repeated about 5 times, and now when I try to go for first gear (or any) it starts to move the car ahead slightly.
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Old Feb 10, 2013 | 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by H22_CB7_JAY
So, no pressure is lost from not having the bleeder nipple open? I was always leary of even unscrewing it too much, but if its sole purpose is to JUST get air out then I guess I have been way wrong.
There's no pressure in the system until you push the clutch. Even if a little fluid falls out, it's going in the same direction that you want from the master cylinder ------> to the bleeder valve. I assume that are not allowing the master cylinder to get low at all during the bleeding process ? If it gets too low it will suck air in and you will have to rebleed.
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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 08:38 PM
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Thanks Holmesnmanny!!
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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 09:58 PM
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