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Old Jan 12, 2013 | 09:10 AM
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The manual says my 1998 Accord 4 cyl a/t requires honda premium atf. They dont stock this at my local auto parts store. Do I have to wait til monday to go to the dealership or is there an equivalent.

Is honda premium better than the other stuff or what?
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Old Jan 12, 2013 | 09:33 AM
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I’m not the expert so I’m sure others will chime in.

I gathered from many people on this site that Honda fluid is the only way to go so that is what I got. I went to the dealer and told them I wanted three litres of automatic tranny fluid and this is what they gave me.

HONDA FULL SYNTHETIC AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION FLUID-ATF DW-1 ULTRA LOW VISCOSITY.

Don’t forget the crush washer.

1) Drain
2) Refill via the dipstick (small funnel required) I think 2.6 litres to refill
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Old Jan 12, 2013 | 09:36 AM
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what about the crush washer? do I need to get a new one at Honda?


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Old Jan 12, 2013 | 09:39 AM
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You can probably get away with reusing the old one but it is better to just buy a new one, they are cheap anyways. Im sure you can get them at local auto parts store but if you want to make sure just get it from honda when you pick up the atf.
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Old Jan 13, 2013 | 07:49 AM
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I would not use anything but honda atf in a honda automatic transmission.
I agree on the washer as well, just get it at the dealer, it will fit perfectly.
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Old Jan 13, 2013 | 10:10 AM
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The car manual calls for Z-1 ATF. DW-1 is supposed to be backward compatible and mixable despite the fact that it's synthetic and z1 is not. I'd just try to find some Z1...
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Old Jan 13, 2013 | 10:28 AM
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We use the dw1 in all Honda autos at work. Doesn't seem to have any issues
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Old Jan 13, 2013 | 12:47 PM
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I did a 3 time flush and refill with Redline ATF. No problems as of yet.
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Old Jan 13, 2013 | 01:07 PM
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Just looked at the manual today and it says right in there that in emergency cases to use Dexron-III until you can get some Honda ATF.

I just replaced the tranny in a 1998 Accord Ex that I bought pretty cheap a few weeks ago.
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Old Jan 13, 2013 | 02:14 PM
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gotcha. the guy at autozone said the computer had dexron mercon listed. I'm not gonna trust it tho. I'm just gonna go to honda and not risk it. thanks for the help guys.
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Old Jan 13, 2013 | 03:24 PM
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I have put dexron into a honda automatic, an accord actually, and it was a 6th gen. it DID drive, but the shifts were VERY harsh, we ended up draining multiple times to get it all out.
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Old Jan 13, 2013 | 03:38 PM
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castrol multi-import works as a suitable substitute
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Old Jan 14, 2013 | 07:55 AM
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A quick follow-up and report of my findings...
My kid and I drove his 91 Accord up onto the ramps yesterday to do the automatic transmission oil drain/refill. We were on level ground and I had three litres on Honda oil and a new crush washer at the ready. The oil on the stick looked good (red) and didn’t smell burnt to me but we recently acquired the car so a fluid change was in order. I pulled the plug and let the oil drain into the pan while I inspected the magnet. I was amazed at the amount of sludge that was attached to the oil plug. It had to be ¼ inch thick all the way around likely making the magnet ineffective at this point. After letting the tranny drain for about 15 minutes I put the plug back in and poured two litres of fresh oil into the dipstick hole. We fired up the engine and cycled the shifter through the gears several times and then backed off the ramps and shut down the engine. I wanted to see how much oil came out of the transmission so we carefully poured it back into the containers and it was exactly two litres. I ran the car and checked the dipstick several more times and she is reading full. I’m not sure why only two liters came out and I only had to put back in two liters to get it full again but I’m not that worried about it. I am glad I got the sludge off the plug magnet and am looking forward to seeing what it looks like next week when we do the second drain/fill.
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Old Jul 16, 2016 | 10:36 AM
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Hopefully there's not a litre of sludge in the tranny. Lol.
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Old Jul 16, 2016 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ChuckRocks
Hopefully there's not a litre of sludge in the tranny. Lol.
You know this is a 3-year old thread, right?
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Old Sep 6, 2016 | 03:00 PM
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I won't quote the guy who drained and refilled 2 quarts as his post is a bit old but this thread seems perfectly appropriate (shows that I searched too and yes, I know it's 3+ years old).

Anyway, I have a '99 Accord 4-cylinder and I found varying numbers for how much fluid drains out and you replace. The most common answer/amount is "3 quarts". The OP drained 2 quarts so he refilled with 2 quarts. I saw one person say "the book" (I presume this is a Honda book) says 2.8 quarts but he still puts in 3 'cause it's easy. Finally, this page says 2.6 quarts. The first drain/refill I did -- I didn't measure what came out as I was using Valvoline ATF in 1-gallon bottles -- so I had nothing to pour it into to measure. I put 3 quarts back in, drove around for 5 minutes, let it sit for a bit, and the dipstick indicated quite a bit over 'MAX'. In fact, it went up to the taper where the dipstick goes from flat to round. I did the 2nd drain/refill and this time I put in 2.5 liters (or 2.6 quarts - I was using a measuring cup with mL markings). Drove it a short distance again and checked the dipstick and it's just above the 'MIN' line, so I have my baseline.

It looks like 2.6 quarts is close to the minimum required. Not sure exactly what the maximum is but it must be around 2.8 quarts.

What is other's experience ?

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Old Sep 7, 2016 | 12:52 PM
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Default Re: Honda Premium ATF equivalent??

Originally Posted by HallStevenson
What is other's experience ?
The sump only contains ~2.6 Quarts. But with older worn transmissions that can leak down, or a car that has been sitting a while, the amount of fluid may be more than the 2.6-2.8 spec.
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Old Sep 7, 2016 | 01:03 PM
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Okay, thanks for your confirmation. 2.6 quarts it is (for now).

Interesting that the guy above only put in 2.1 quarts and it showed "full" for him....
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