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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 03:52 PM
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Well here is my setup 92 accord with a swapped in f22a1 from a 91 accord.

The car is running rough as if on 2 cylinders. I will go into what is going on. Or more or less whats not going on.

While the car is running I can remove spark plug wires 1 and 2 from the head and the car will run the same.

I can also remove the 1 and 2 fuel injector plugs while running and still runs the same.

Things I have replaced

spark plugs
wires
cap and rotor
new dizzy
new injectors
new injector resistor box
new fuel filter

Things I have confirmed are good

Belt timing
ignition timing
Firing order
everything above.
NO CEL

Cleaned
throttle body
intake manifold
IACV

Now if I move swap plug wires 3 and 4 the problem swaps to these cylinders and 1 and 2 work perfect. if I swap them back 1 and 2 mess up again.

Also if I removed 3 or 4 plug wire or injector wire while running the car stalls out. which is what is expected.

This is kind of a hard thing to explain without talking to someone face to face. But this is my DD and I need this back about 2 weeks ago

I hope this is a ok eplanation for you

Thanks
Tim
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 10:29 PM
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You're gonna need to compression test it. You can get a kit for like $20 at autozone or oreilly.

Don't forget to remove the ecu fuse to disable spark and remove the main relay to disable fuel.
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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 02:40 AM
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Now if I move swap plug wires 3 and 4 the problem swaps to these cylinders and 1 and 2 work perfect. if I swap them back 1 and 2 mess up again.

If moving the two spark plug wires moves the problem......................then wouldn't you suspect that those wires are the problem?
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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 02:47 AM
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Are you sure you got the spark plugs wires correct? It should go 1 3 4 2 with 1 starting at bottom left corner of distributor and running clockwise around distributor.

Also, number 1 cylinder is closest to drivers side fender and goes in order 2 3 4 towards passenger side fender.
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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 08:35 AM
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have you take the time ot actually ohm your spark plug wires out yet and verify they are good?
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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 12:28 PM
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Default Re: Never experienced this problem before. HELP

I forgot to add I did a compression test on this 190 on every cylinder.

used 3 sets of plug wires also

checked firing order about 17 times now. its the same every time haha

Figured it out on a total accident last night!!!

Turns out I had the vacuum line for the EGR in the wrong position.
I went to unplug a vacuum line to see how much idle changed and if it changed the 1 and 2 cylinder at all. Well as soon as I unplugged the EGR the car idled high which was expected. But it idled very smooth. I plugged that vacuum port and everything is perfect now. Never would have guess it was dumping too much exhaust back into the motor.
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