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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 06:05 AM
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Im looking to do a cheep reliable swap to my ek hatch. I want to do an ls or a mini swap im not sure witch one would be worth the time and money. If some one can help me out and give me your opinions on whats worth it.
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 06:16 AM
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 06:25 AM
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Mini-me's are a waste of time imo...its still a slow sohc at the end of the day
(no bashing on mini-me fans intended)
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 06:42 AM
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If you do end up going LS, try to ditch the LS transmission for a GSR or type R, you will be much happier.
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 06:43 AM
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 07:22 AM
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Buddy of mine just went from a mini-me to an LS and said the difference is night and day. Also once you have B-series then that opens up more options down the road, for relatively cheaply doing an LS/VTEC or something along those lines.

Also it's easy to say, but depending on money situation you can almost get a B16A2 swap for only a few hundred more that will feel even better and already has a nice, short-geared tranny.
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 08:29 AM
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LS ftw

The LS tranny has some long gears and isnt that bad.
If you get a b16 tranny you should change out the 5th gearset to a LS 5th gear.
You'll have a quicker car but but the 5th gear will make it more tollerable on the freeway.
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 12:41 PM
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Ya go LS with B16 trans and LS 5th gear, i have that setup currently in my integra. The b16 made a major difference in acceleration of the car, the y21 w/lsd was the best thing I ever couldve done to my b18!

Once the weather warms up, that setup will be going into my EJ2 as the integra's body is toast.
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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 05:40 AM
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okay i think i will deff end up doing an ls, how hard is it to swap into my ek and what is everything i need in order to do this.
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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 06:05 AM
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Just so you know...i typed "ls swap in ek" into google, and 651,000 results popped up

but anywho, here is a useful link..... https://honda-tech.com/forums/hybrid-engine-swaps-18/%2A-%2A-obd1-b-series-engine-into-obd2a-obd2b-civic-integra-%2A-%2A-1972711/
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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by JuggerNaut-CTR
Just so you know...i typed "ls swap in ek" into google, and 651,000 results popped up

but anywho, here is a useful link..... https://honda-tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1972711
i know i could have used google but i though i could find better resources on here. thanks anyway tho.
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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 10:30 AM
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^ your funny...google shows you the links to any given site with the info you typed into the search...49,700 of the results are from this site, which would be resources from "here"
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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 10:58 AM
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do the mini me for higher compression ratio= better fuel economy and more torque and hp, sohc are cheaper, the b series tranny alone will cost you close to 400$ or above, and you only have to add 3 or 4 wires to your stock harness, ls's are overrated, more bang for your buck mini me

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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 11:39 AM
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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by spens 91 Ef
ls's are overrated, more bang for your buck mini me
people who believe this, must have only owned single cams



compression increase over a stock ls is not much.... y7 block/y8 head = 9.96:1 / Stock ls = 9.60:1

sohc = 1590cc .....torqueless
ls = 1834cc .... displacement always wins

The slight compression increase will not be enough to improve torque or hp over an stock ls

d-series and ls trans go for around the same $
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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by JuggerNaut-CTR
people who believe this, must have only owned single cams



compression increase over a stock ls is not much.... y7 block/y8 head = 9.96:1 / Stock ls = 9.60:1

sohc = 1590cc .....torqueless
ls = 1834cc .... displacement always wins

The slight compression increase will not be enough to improve torque or hp over an stock ls

d-series and ls trans go for around the same $
you dont use the y8 head use the z6, if your using different gas cuz theres a ping theres a noticeable difference in the compression, sure on wikipedia the ls is rated at more hp, but it doesnt tell you your running a higher compression ration then the stock y8 or z6 the pistons are different in the blocks, ls's way more and the b series trannies are just meant to be topped out on stock motors, at least with his y7 tranny he wont be cruising at 70 in 5th above 32k lol
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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 05:24 PM
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I'd say LS. But have you considered the B20?
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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by God Eater
I'd say LS. But have you considered the B20?
This.
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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 07:12 PM
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I have owned a mini-me 1.5 with EX tranny. It is a lot of fun. And if you set it up well you can start making torque at 3k RPMs. But once you go B-series you won't go back. And an imported B20 can be had for around $600.
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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 07:13 PM
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LS ALL DAY
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Old Nov 24, 2012 | 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by JuggerNaut-CTR
^ your funny...google shows you the links to any given site with the info you typed into the search...49,700 of the results are from this site, which would be resources from "here"
dont care all i asked was peoples opinion on the swap not about google.
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Old Nov 24, 2012 | 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by God Eater
I'd say LS. But have you considered the B20?
i haven't considered the B20 nor have i looked into it yet but i'll deff have to check it out!
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Old Nov 26, 2012 | 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by PAscene
all i asked was peoples opinion on the swap.
Really?

Originally Posted by PAscene
how hard is it to swap into my ek and what is everything i need in order to do this.
I thought this is what you asked....
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Old Nov 26, 2012 | 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by spens 91 Ef
you dont use the y8 head use the z6, if your using different gas cuz theres a ping theres a noticeable difference in the compression, sure on wikipedia the ls is rated at more hp, but it doesnt tell you your running a higher compression ration then the stock y8 or z6 the pistons are different in the blocks, ls's way more and the b series trannies are just meant to be topped out on stock motors, at least with his y7 tranny he wont be cruising at 70 in 5th above 32k lol
You need to stop...your not educated enough on this subject really.

If he would use a z6 head...compression with the y7 block (which he has) would be 9.62:1...nearly the exact same as a stock ls. But I thought you said to go mini me because of the compression increase? He has not stated anything about swapping pistons...which y7 pistons will yield higher compression over y8 or z6 pistons anyways.
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