ok, so **** my life. Didnt verify that the ramhorn manifold I bought had a vband clamp so I bought a precision 39mm two bolt wastegate from www.buyimportperformance.com.

Got my manifold today, I looked at it and said fml, so here I am looking at vband to 38mm wastegate adapters. Thing is it would cost me roughly 85 bucks shipped via atpturbo.com link as follows

http://www.atpturbo.com/mm5/merchant...de=TIL-WGT-025

http://www.atpturbo.com/mm5/merchant...de=ATP-FLS-101

Yes I know its 38mm two bolt to vband but I'm sure it'll work the other way around too.



now if I ship the part back and trade up to the tial mvs 38mm vband wastegate, it would probably break out to be about the same.

tial mvs link as follows

http://www.buyimportperformance.com/...p/tial-mvs.htm

now does the tial come with all springs or just a spring or non at all?

the precision one is nice, plus it comes with three springs, once again, here is the link:

http://www.buyimportperformance.com/...bo085-1000.htm

thoughts?

 

My TIAL MVR44 came with all the springs. Im sure the 38 MVS does too. Do yourself a favour...less adapters the better, return your 2 bolt.

 

Yup.

 

Yes, if you buy REAL Tial MVS they come with all of the springs be it a 38mm or 44mm...

 

I was just worried it wouldnt come with the springs because the sight didnt list them. Talked to a representative from buyimportperformance and he recommended just cutting the vband off and welding the already included 38mm adapter on so I might just do that.

 

Tial MVS. I will always pick Tial, no matter who its against

 

TiAL or Turbosmart only for me as well.

 

Tial MVS for sure the old two bolt has been discontinued for a reason, All of the MVR and MVS gates come with all of the springs unless someone is snatching them out of the box.

 

I have noticed a rash of customers come in and when they are asked if they brought all the springs so we can set the car up. They looked puzzled and say, "No, you have to buy it at a set PSI"... then they are usually asked something along the lines of, let me guess you got it from eBay. Depending on the seller they take the springs out and sell them for $30-40 a spring and make a killing as it is 100% profit at that point.