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Old Aug 21, 2012 | 10:03 PM
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Default 94 civic ex failed smog hc ppm

In cali, civic failed smog. Hc ppm on idle. Do you guys think cat converter is bad.
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Old Aug 22, 2012 | 05:58 AM
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Post the emissions sheet.

Stock Civic?

Last ignition system tune up?
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Old Aug 22, 2012 | 09:42 AM
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^^ Emissions sheet will def help out. You're either getting too much fuel or not enough air. Could also b that you just need to reset ignition timing, but yeah, post a pic of the emissions.
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Old Aug 23, 2012 | 12:57 PM
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its a 94 civic ex. completely stock.. no mods what so ever.. it has around 269k. car runs fine has no problems. just wont pass smog. cap and rotor have roughly 10-15k miles on it. fuel filter and air filter are pretty new couple thousand miles.

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Old Aug 23, 2012 | 01:03 PM
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Plugs and plug wires?

Ignition timing?

CEL codes?
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Old Aug 23, 2012 | 01:03 PM
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i tried posting picture.. didnt upload for some reason.
here are the result where it failed.

idle 911

%co2 meas 14.5

%02 meas 0.2

hc (ppm) max 100
ave 17
meas 115

co (%) max 1.00
ave 0.00
meas 0.10

results FAIL
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Old Aug 23, 2012 | 01:08 PM
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We can see the picture.
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Old Aug 23, 2012 | 01:08 PM
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Default Re: 94 civic ex failed smog hc ppm

spark plug also have 2k miles
timing 16 degrees
and no cel
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Old Aug 23, 2012 | 01:09 PM
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Plug wires?
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Old Aug 23, 2012 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by RonJ@HT
We can see the picture.
okay, good.. cus on my computer it isnt showing it for some reason.. sry for overposting pic.
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Old Aug 23, 2012 | 01:10 PM
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wires were changed when i change cap and rotor. 10k miles
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Old Aug 23, 2012 | 01:11 PM
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What spark plugs? Properly gapped?
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Old Aug 23, 2012 | 01:12 PM
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ngk platinum spark plugs and yes
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Old Aug 23, 2012 | 01:14 PM
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Engine running cold? Taking a longer than normal time to warm up? Is idle speed a little high?
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Old Aug 23, 2012 | 01:28 PM
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Engine runs normal temp. Idle speed is a little low. Usually 400 rpms.
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Old Aug 23, 2012 | 01:32 PM
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The engine should idle at about 700 rpm. Have you tried adjusting the idle speed and replacing the PCV valve?

Any other performance problems?
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Old Aug 23, 2012 | 01:49 PM
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No other performance problems.
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Old Aug 23, 2012 | 03:49 PM
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Fix the low idle issue and also test the coil and igniter unit.

A faulty O2 sensor might also cause the problem.
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Old Aug 23, 2012 | 04:34 PM
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Default Re: 94 civic ex failed smog hc ppm

k idle is fixed roughly 700 rpm.. i will test coil and igniter unit.. also if faulty o2, wouldnt it throw a cel
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Old Aug 23, 2012 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ANNiHiLATORS
.. also if faulty o2, wouldnt it throw a cel
Not always
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Old Aug 23, 2012 | 04:46 PM
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Default Re: 94 civic ex failed smog hc ppm

How exactly would i check to c if o2 is bad
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Old Aug 23, 2012 | 04:56 PM
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Old Aug 24, 2012 | 08:58 AM
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Is the smog shop far from your house? Sounds like the cat wasn't hot enough when the test was done, especially because the tech raised rpm's to 911 on an idle test lol. He was probably trying to get it to warm up. Unless that's standard for a Cali test?
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Old Aug 24, 2012 | 09:35 PM
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Default Re: 94 civic ex failed smog hc ppm

Smog shop i went to was 15 miles away from my house. Car usually dont idle at 900 lol.. dony knw why it did. Do you think the cat is bad?
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 09:16 AM
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Hmm, the cat would've probably been warm by then. I don't think it's ur cat, cuz ur post-cat O2 would've thrown a code saying so. Did you test your pre-cat O2 as Ron suggested?
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