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Old Jun 19, 2012 | 06:30 PM
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ok so my steering was pretty bad my wheel wasnt centering
i was hearing cracking sounds (which still make noise even after new rack ) when i would jerk wheel or go from a stop..
put it on the lift.. saw my steering rack was leaking power steering fluid..
just changed it the power steering rack with tie rods inner and outter and now its even worse..
the wheel feels very stiff and when i put it any which way evn like an inch over while im driving and let go it will just stay there..
everything under the car was fine like ball joints but not 100% just pushed up and down on wherl had no play.. also have after market upper camber kit
the only thing i can think of is a bad power steering pump.. would this cause this if its bad?
also the wheel turns to the right easy but to the left very hard..
oh and i got an alignment right after
i hope the new rack isnt bad
i mean how would i know if my ball joints are siezed? they didnt really have any play

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Old Jun 19, 2012 | 09:02 PM
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Old Jun 20, 2012 | 04:53 AM
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anyone????
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Old Jun 20, 2012 | 06:38 AM
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if it is the pump..simple test
with the motor off turn the wheel hard
while holding it start the car
if it goes soft the pump is working
doesnt mean its good but does show its pumping at least
but how much diffrence is there between turning the wheel with engine off and engine on
if there only a little diffrence then sounds like a pump or blockage or low fluid
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Old Jun 20, 2012 | 06:49 AM
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well when i turn it to the right its easy but to the left its hard
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Old Jun 20, 2012 | 07:13 AM
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could be the control valve in the steering rack

another test you could do is
disconnect the tierods at the knuckle and then see if the stiffness is still there if it is then steering rack ( test with and with out engine running )
if its stiffness is gone then start looking at the upper and lower joints
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Old Jun 20, 2012 | 08:16 AM
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great just paid 200 for rack n 200 for labor for a bad rack man autozone sucks
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Old Jun 20, 2012 | 09:37 AM
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i have the worst luck they gave me a bad alternatir too.. if i change the ball joints and it still is like this its probally a bad rack correct? because the power steering does work not that good but it wouldnt be hard to move it left but not right correct?
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Old Jun 20, 2012 | 09:46 AM
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my mechanic said this just now about my ball joints If they were it would have been hard to turn the spindle when there was no rack in the car. They moved fine. is that true?
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Old Jun 20, 2012 | 03:56 PM
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gona try a new power steering pump just got tomorow
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Old Jun 20, 2012 | 07:28 PM
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my mechanic said this just now about my ball joints If they were it would have been hard to turn the spindle when there was no rack in the car. They moved fine. is that true?
yes that is true
basicly what i said above re testing with the rack disconnected
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Old Jun 20, 2012 | 07:51 PM
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so wtf its a bad rack i mean.. is autozone going to pay me for the labor on a bad rack wtf
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Old Jun 20, 2012 | 09:21 PM
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Of course they aren't. If you wanted labor covered, you should have bought the part through the shop. Save a dime, spend a dollar.
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 05:39 AM
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its my buddy im not goin to some shop
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 05:55 AM
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maby wheel bearings or axles or steering column shaft i kno that has play
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 06:24 AM
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maby even lca bushing
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 02:49 PM
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 02:55 PM
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Replace all of it. You aren't doing any troubleshooting. Just guessing.
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 03:36 PM
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thats why im asking for help
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 03:43 PM
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And you're not taking anyone's advice either.
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 03:53 PM
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is that plural because mr grim is the only one who gave advice
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 03:56 PM
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And you're not taking it. Just sitting there scratching your head looking confused.
Did you check the ball joints? I'm sorry. Did your FRIEND check the ball joints?
I found this just in case neither of you know how.
https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-civic-del-sol-1992-2000-1/how-check-ball-joints-2526095/
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by swizz977
my mechanic said this just now about my ball joints If they were it would have been hard to turn the spindle when there was no rack in the car. They moved fine. is that true?
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 04:51 PM
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If you have a mechanic working on it I don't understand why you're posting for help in a forum. How are YOU performing the troubleshooting?
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 05:22 PM
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by making this thread need some more opinions
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