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Old Jan 6, 2012 | 06:09 PM
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So I was driving about 55 and downshift to 4th, as I get to about 75 I shift to 5th at about 5500 rpm. Boom check engine light comes on and my car dies! I try to start it again and it has a hard time starting up. When I do get it to start I have to hold the throttle open . I can hear some slight knocking but the car wont idle it continues to die.

Im hoping someone can help me with this problem, jst let me know what information you need
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Old Jan 6, 2012 | 06:16 PM
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What cels are you throwing?
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Old Jan 6, 2012 | 06:36 PM
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What do you mean by cels
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Old Jan 6, 2012 | 06:37 PM
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Check engine light
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Old Jan 6, 2012 | 06:48 PM
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I believe its obd1 not sure what the engine light came on for. My friend said that I might have slipped the timing belt and maybe blown the front seal
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Old Jan 6, 2012 | 06:50 PM
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That's what I'm asking check it and see what code its throwing
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Old Jan 6, 2012 | 06:57 PM
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Ya im gonna check it tommorow at my shop. Do you have any general ideas?
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Old Jan 6, 2012 | 07:01 PM
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Possibly timing..don't really know until you say what cels your throwing
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Old Jan 6, 2012 | 07:34 PM
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Hard start might be timing.
But also check your fuel pressure
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Old Jan 7, 2012 | 12:00 AM
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I say either the timing belt jumped and you're prob gonna have bent valves or it could be a chunked rod.
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Old Jan 7, 2012 | 01:01 AM
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just not enough info.. before ya start askin around for info you need to gather some info on your end first. (see if your timing marks are all still lined up, check for even compression in all of your cylinders. after you establish that you don't have a gaping hole in your block or torn to bits T belt do a good look over your entire engine and trans assembly. odd sh*t happens, check everything that you can in your mechanical range.. then start asking Q's
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Old Jan 7, 2012 | 10:44 AM
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Well this happened last night and i was just asking to see if anyone has the same problem. I haven't got into the engine yet but i was hoping someone had a similar problem and found a quick solution before i started tearing apart the engine.

I'm going to scan it here shortly and see what codes come up.
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Old Jan 7, 2012 | 01:44 PM
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You can't scan it - it's not a GM or something... Listen kid, you gave us ABSOLUTLEY nothing to go off of. If your engine is knocking there isn't anything that would set off a code that would be an easy fix. You must understand, in the diagnosing world - a vague description always leads to an improper analysis. There are WAY too many variables; sure we could list every problem that it could be but why waste our time? As we are on the Internet sitting behind screens, the only thing we can do is suggest things for you to do and report back. We analyze and decipher the information and repeat the process until the problem is fixed. To put it in simple terms that you can understand - YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO DO SOME CHECKING OF YOUR OWN!
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by N3va3vaSatisfi3d
You can't scan it - it's not a GM or something... Listen kid, you gave us ABSOLUTLEY nothing to go off of. If your engine is knocking there isn't anything that would set off a code that would be an easy fix. You must understand, in the diagnosing world - a vague description always leads to an improper analysis. There are WAY too many variables; sure we could list every problem that it could be but why waste our time? As we are on the Internet sitting behind screens, the only thing we can do is suggest things for you to do and report back. We analyze and decipher the information and repeat the process until the problem is fixed. To put it in simple terms that you can understand - YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO DO SOME CHECKING OF YOUR OWN!
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by N3va3vaSatisfi3d
You can't scan it - it's not a GM or something... Listen kid, you gave us ABSOLUTLEY nothing to go off of. If your engine is knocking there isn't anything that would set off a code that would be an easy fix. You must understand, in the diagnosing world - a vague description always leads to an improper analysis. There are WAY too many variables; sure we could list every problem that it could be but why waste our time? As we are on the Internet sitting behind screens, the only thing we can do is suggest things for you to do and report back. We analyze and decipher the information and repeat the process until the problem is fixed. To put it in simple terms that you can understand - YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO DO SOME CHECKING OF YOUR OWN!
"Kid" a term used by people on the internet with extremely big e-peens..

Anyway back to what i was getting at, i ran the obd0 ecu code. 4 short blinks
and it was a reference to code 4 - Bad crankshaft position sensor... My original post was just to see if anyone had a similar kind of situation and if they did my intentions were to get some insight.

Thanks for the troll though, much appreciated in these much helpful forums.
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by SEA ARE EX

Anyway back to what i was getting at, i ran the obd0 ecu code. 4 short blinks
and it was a reference to code 4 - Bad crankshaft position sensor...
Wow, what an idiot... i understand you were looking for some quick insight but, thats not really what this forum is for. In this situation it is used for research info.

Here's some solid advice, get your facts straight, DTCs (DIAGNOSTIC trouble codes) quite simply put, point to a CIRCUIT that has a problem, not necessarily a component. A component is only found to be faulty(unless otherwise obvious) if the electrical circuit checks out to be in good working order.

You would get more help if you came here with more info to put on the table, but you said hey my car did this and then this happened and now it wont start wtf?
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 08:56 PM
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cocky attitude. be glad people like N3va3vaSatisfi3d is taking the time to help you...
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 10:50 PM
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Dang must have hit a few nerves there! If these forums are for research like you say why do most the posts I read end up with arguments from people like you about a totally unrelated subject.

But to be honest I found what I needed and the previous 3 comments made on this thread about how stupid I am did nothing for me. Try to get past the fact that your the smartest and anyone that isn't on your level is undeserving of any help. Again im new to these forums so try to consider where im coming from. Or continue to troll anyone that is new and unknowledgable about this kind of stuff.
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 11:53 PM
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Default Re: Potentially big problem b16a

My only question is, if you mention in an early post that you're OBD1, then why are you concerned with OBD0 code 4.

They may very well be the same code, I honestly didn't check, I was just curious.
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 04:22 AM
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OBD-1 codes are just an extended list of OBD-0 codes (they are the same).

https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-civic-del-sol-1992-2000-1/how-pull-cel-d4-srs-abs-codes-code-lists-1901557/

OBD1 Trouble Codes:

Code 0 and 11 Electronic Control Module (ECM)
Code1 Heated oxygen sensor A
Code 2 Oxygen content B
Code 3 and 5 Manifold Absolute Pressure
Code 4 Crank position sensor
Code 6 Engine coolant temperature
Code 7 Throttle position sensor
Code 8 Top dead center sensor
Code 9 No.1 cylinder position sensor
Code 10 Intake air temperature sensor
Code 12 Exhaust recirculation system
Code 13 Barometric pressure sensor
Code 14 Idle air control valve or bad ECM
Code 15 Ignition output signal
Code 16 Fuel Injector
Code 17 Vehicle speed sensor
Code 19 A/T lock-up control solenoid
Code 20 Electric load detector
Code 21 V-TEC control solenoid
Code 22 V-TEC pressure solenoid
Code 23 Knock sensor
Code 30 A/T FI signal A
Code 30 A/T FI signal B
Code 41 Heated oxygen sensor heater
Code 43 Fuel supply system
Code 45 Fuel supply metering
Code 48 Heated oxygen sensor
Code 61 Front heated oxygen sensor
Code 63 Rear heated oxygen sensor
Code 65 Rear heated oxygen sensor heater
Code 67 Catalytic converter system
Code 70 Automatic transaxle
Code 71 Misfire detected cylinder 1
Code 72 Misfire detected cylinder 2
Code 73 Misfire detected cylinder 3
Code 74 Misfire detected cylinder 4
Code 75 Misfire detected cylinder 5
Code 76 Misfire detected cylinder 6
Code 80 Exhaust recirculation system
Code 86 Coolant temperature
Code 92 Evaporative emission control system

Check and verify your wiring is OK and is in the correct pinouts. There is also a possibility that your distributor has failed.

PS - If everyone is telling you that you are wrong, guess what you might be?
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by SEA ARE EX
Dang must have hit a few nerves there! If these forums are for research like you say why do most the posts I read end up with arguments from people like you about a totally unrelated subject.

But to be honest I found what I needed and the previous 3 comments made on this thread about how stupid I am did nothing for me. Try to get past the fact that your the smartest and anyone that isn't on your level is undeserving of any help. Again im new to these forums so try to consider where im coming from. Or continue to troll anyone that is new and unknowledgable about this kind of stuff.
There's a FAQ (FREQUENTLY asked questions) at the beginning of every model specific forum which is partially intented to keep b/s threads like this at a minimum...

P.S. to answer your question its because nobody (thats new) uses this ^
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