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Old Nov 5, 2011 | 12:31 PM
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So ihave ls vtec with gsr head and b18b1 block. I got my car out the shop a couple days ago and the guy told me i was going to need a new vtec sandwich plate. Now do they sell these at stores like pep boys or advance auto? or do i have to order one by golden eagle?
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Old Nov 5, 2011 | 12:39 PM
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So ihave ls vtec with gsr head and b18b1 block. I got my car out the shop a couple days ago and the guy told me i was going to need a new vtec sandwich plate. Now do they sell these at stores like pep boys or advance auto? or do i have to order one by golden eagle?
An LSVtec setup is a hacked together engine so, no, pepboys will not have the conversion plate. Your first mistake was trusting a mechanic. Always double check something they tell you is "bad". Check your oil supply lines to the head first.
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Old Nov 5, 2011 | 12:51 PM
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Oh really? So I suppose he should trust a dentist? And it's not AN LSVtec.. It's A LSVtec. Your statement is very offensive to a person that has been doing this and utilized said skill to feed his/her family.... I suggest you know what you're talking about so next time you don't sound so ignorant.

OP.. It's quite likely the o-ring behind the adapter is defective or the line itself may need to be tightened a little bit. The best LSVtec conversion adapter would be made by Golden Eagle.. You can buy one directly from them... You can also find them on ebay for a little cheaper. Being involved in the industry for quite some time, I can suggest the following.. I'm pretty sure if you can have an understanding with said mechanic, that if he/she is 100% sure it's what's leaking.. if it's not.. Then he/she will eat the cost of repair. I've told many of m customers that to put them at ease. This way.. if it's not the leak.. you're not out any money. Easiest way to double check your source of leak, is to clean the engine completely, purchase engine oil dye and inspect it with an UV light. By chance, do you know what head gasket you are using?
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Old Nov 5, 2011 | 01:22 PM
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Your statement is very offensive to a person that has been doing this and utilized said skill to feed his/her family.... I suggest you know what you're talking about so next time you don't sound so ignorant.
Don't take it personal. I don't trust most mechanics/techs either.
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Old Nov 5, 2011 | 01:29 PM
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Oh really? So I suppose he should trust a dentist? And it's not AN LSVtec.. It's A LSVtec. Your statement is very offensive to a person that has been doing this and utilized said skill to feed his/her family.... I suggest you know what you're talking about so next time you don't sound so ignorant.
I have heard of dentists doing unnecessary root canals for profit... Perhaps you should go back to school so you can learn that a and an can often be used both ways before abbreviations? For example. "I'm going to the doctor for a/an MRI. I suggest you gain some common sense before trying to school me and make yourself look like a tool.
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Old Nov 5, 2011 | 03:03 PM
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. By chance, do you know what head gasket you are using?
Everything was done with the golden eagle conversion kit so im running a golden eagle head gasket. I'm not really much of a mechanic so i might just end up ordering the golden eagle vtec conversion oil supply and see what they can do.
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Old Nov 5, 2011 | 05:50 PM
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I have heard of dentists doing unnecessary root canals for profit... Perhaps you should go back to school so you can learn that a and an can often be used both ways before abbreviations? For example. "I'm going to the doctor for a/an MRI. I suggest you gain some common sense before trying to school me and make yourself look like a tool.
And this has to do with the OP's question how? Go back to school? ha.. nope.. I seem to be doing just fine thanks.. my car and business speaks for itself! Let's keep it on topic buttercup! tool?! sure.. it's even in my screen name.. lulz..



OP... Usually those kits are trouble free permitting correct install. You may want to try to re torque the adapter. You can also try to replace the o-ring. It should only take 10-15 minutes.
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Old Nov 6, 2011 | 01:00 AM
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You dont need to buy a whole new kit you can buy just the sandwich plate or just the o-ring which is probably what went bad as people tend to over tighten them or not lube them before installation.. Strange the mechanic wouldn't recommend trying the o-ring first as this would most likely be causing the leak and they are 4 bucks from golden eagle.
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Old Nov 6, 2011 | 06:32 AM
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^Agreed... However.. It may not be strange if the mechanic wasn't familiar with LS/Vtec conversions. Remember.. It's not a factory engine. Honda FSM/All Data/Mitchell never make note of nor mention such conversion.
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Old Nov 6, 2011 | 08:12 AM
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Well when i went over to Midas i was told that the mechanic that checked out my car was a certified honda tech but i'll be sure to check out the o-ring. And also if i decide to order a sandwich plate which filter adapter do i get because they have 6 different ones on their websites
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Old Nov 6, 2011 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by wrenchez81
Oh really? So I suppose he should trust a dentist? And it's not AN LSVtec.. It's A LSVtec. Your statement is very offensive to a person that has been doing this and utilized said skill to feed his/her family.... I suggest you know what you're talking about so next time you don't sound so ignorant.

OP.. It's quite likely the o-ring behind the adapter is defective or the line itself may need to be tightened a little bit. The best LSVtec conversion adapter would be made by Golden Eagle.. You can buy one directly from them... You can also find them on ebay for a little cheaper. Being involved in the industry for quite some time, I can suggest the following.. I'm pretty sure if you can have an understanding with said mechanic, that if he/she is 100% sure it's what's leaking.. if it's not.. Then he/she will eat the cost of repair. I've told many of m customers that to put them at ease. This way.. if it's not the leak.. you're not out any money. Easiest way to double check your source of leak, is to clean the engine completely, purchase engine oil dye and inspect it with an UV light. By chance, do you know what head gasket you are using?
I 100% agree. As a mechanic that makes his money by repairing cars I can tell you that we are not dishonest for the the most part. I want you tp have your car fixed so I can make money. If I screw you over then you will most likely never come back and I loose money. As a mechanic it is my goal to find problems and needed maintenance, report it to the customer truthfully and honestly I will even gladly show a customer the problem and explain it to then so they can make their own decision. If I don a leak repair of any kind and the customer comes back with the same leak I then need to fix the leak again for free and if I repaired the wrong thing guess what I am now not only loosing time but paying for the parts for the repair. Not really something I want to do.
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Old Nov 6, 2011 | 10:49 AM
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I 100% agree. As a mechanic that makes his money by repairing cars I can tell you that we are not dishonest for the the most part. I want you tp have your car fixed so I can make money. If I screw you over then you will most likely never come back and I loose money. As a mechanic it is my goal to find problems and needed maintenance, report it to the customer truthfully and honestly I will even gladly show a customer the problem and explain it to then so they can make their own decision. If I don a leak repair of any kind and the customer comes back with the same leak I then need to fix the leak again for free and if I repaired the wrong thing guess what I am now not only loosing time but paying for the parts for the repair. Not really something I want to do.
I agree that there are alot of honest mechanics out there (such as myself) but there are alot of bigger corporations that actually tell there mechanics to be dishonest if it can get the company more money. For instance. I was told my durango would need 1200 dollars worth of suspension parts to remove steering wheel play when i went to get an alignment. They were unaware that i was a mechanic so i declined repair and took it home. I removed all play by adjusting the screw on the power steering pump. Cost me my time. Local mechanics that make a living off it tend to be more honest however.
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Old Nov 6, 2011 | 11:10 AM
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So can someone help me determine do i get the sandwich plate with 1/4 adapter or 1/8?
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Old Nov 6, 2011 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by toeKNEEohh
So can someone help me determine do i get the sandwich plate with 1/4 adapter or 1/8?
Like stated get the o-ring first. And its depends on which line you have running. You will have to measure. But im sure the sandwich plate is most likely fine.
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Old Nov 6, 2011 | 11:17 AM
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Like stated get the o-ring first. And its depends on which line you have running. You will have to measure. But im sure the sandwich plate is most likely fine.
alright thanks man i appreciate it, i'll keep y'all posted
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Old Nov 6, 2011 | 11:21 AM
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i'm a technician (not mechanic, hate that word) at a Honda dealership and i must agree i have seen so many dishonnest "mechanics" in this industry that i would ask to see what the "mechanic" ment by showing me on my vehicle. i suggest to most of my customers to come see what i mean while their cars are in the air so they know i'm not just blowing smoke out of my ***.
anyways, if you ask to see it, you can have an idea of what he's talking about. last time someone came in saying his sandwich plate was leaking, it was just a shitty white box oil filter that was leaking instead.
just saying.
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Old Nov 6, 2011 | 02:51 PM
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A local mechanic at the chevy dealership has warrants for his arrest. I know this because my dad was the person who asked for them. This guy has screwed people out of tens of thousands of dollars, including me. My ECU decided to commit suicide on my old cavalier and rip it from the harness. I replaced the ECU and engine harness and needed the ecu to be reprogrammed no start. (theft light). They charged me over $500 saying my crank sensor wire was damaged in the harness, my ecu was reprogrammed, and my plugs were dirty. As soon as I got it home, I saw NO signs of damage or repair done to the harness, and my obd2 plug was positioned crooked (how I left it). I just had fouled plugs. They charged me over $500 in fouled plugs. Since then, I don't trust ANYONE to touch my car.
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Old Nov 6, 2011 | 04:29 PM
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So you're saying that you took your car to dealership because you had fouled plugs..in a Chevrolet Cavalier? awesome! What does this have to do with a lsvtec oil leak?


How does an ECU commit suicide and rip the harness?

Security re-learn? ...All you have to do is leave the key in the on position for 10-15 minutes so the ECU can learn the resistance for it's pass key...

DLC positioned crooked? you're kidding right? so what! You can plug into it and leave it crooked.. point being? lol

Maybe you're not explaining yourself clearly.. because you really don't make any sense... Sorry you feel like you got ripped off.. but hey.. if someone messes up your order at McDonalds.. Are you not going to trust every McDonalds in the world?
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Old Nov 6, 2011 | 04:41 PM
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A local mechanic at the chevy dealership has warrants for his arrest. I know this because my dad was the person who asked for them. This guy has screwed people out of tens of thousands of dollars, including me. My ECU decided to commit suicide on my old cavalier and rip it from the harness. I replaced the ECU and engine harness and needed the ecu to be reprogrammed no start. (theft light). They charged me over $500 saying my crank sensor wire was damaged in the harness, my ecu was reprogrammed, and my plugs were dirty. As soon as I got it home, I saw NO signs of damage or repair done to the harness, and my obd2 plug was positioned crooked (how I left it). I just had fouled plugs. They charged me over $500 in fouled plugs. Since then, I don't trust ANYONE to touch my car.
I also didnt understand any of that.
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Old Nov 6, 2011 | 04:45 PM
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So you're saying that you took your car to dealership because you had fouled plugs..in a Chevrolet Cavalier? awesome! What does this have to do with a lsvtec oil leak?


How does an ECU commit suicide and rip the harness?

Security re-learn? ...All you have to do is leave the key in the on position for 10-15 minutes so the ECU can learn the resistance for it's pass key...

DLC positioned crooked? you're kidding right? so what! You can plug into it and leave it crooked.. point being? lol

Maybe you're not explaining yourself clearly.. because you really don't make any sense... Sorry you feel like you got ripped off.. but hey.. if someone messes up your order at McDonalds.. Are you not going to trust every McDonalds in the world?
The ECU is mounted behind the front passenger side wheel well of the front bumper. The bracket came loose and it slipped out and started dragging on the freeway directly in front of my tire. Before I realized what had happened it was too late and already went under my tire, ripping it from the harness and leaving the car immobile. After replacing the harness and ecu and doing the theft relearn, I still could not get it to start. Being that I was SIXTEEN, I had it towed to the dealership and in the end, paid for work that was never done. I'm just relaying what it said on the work order. I am, however, impressed that you spent 10 minutes out of your day on me, to yet again prove how much of a tool you are.

I could care less for your opinion. Thieves are what motivated me to learn all about cars, so I could do the work myself, and thus far, have prevailed. Have a good day,sir.
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Old Nov 6, 2011 | 04:47 PM
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hahahaha... actually it was 4 minutes sweet cheeks...and I know where the ECU's are on those hunks of junk..


keep "learning" I appreciate the job security!

let's keep this on topic ja?
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Old Nov 6, 2011 | 04:49 PM
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That was a much better explanation. Even if they did fix your crank sensor it still should have been no where near that much. Good for you learning to work on cars. I started my shop because of people and dealerships who do **** like that.
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Old Nov 6, 2011 | 04:52 PM
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hahahaha... actually it was 4 minutes sweet cheeks...and I know where the ECU's are on those hunks of junk..


keep "learning" I appreciate the job security!

let's keep this on topic ja?
I'm glad i am able to light a fire under your ***. Makes me feel all warm inside.
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Old Nov 6, 2011 | 05:03 PM
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o damn.. and I thought that was hemeroids .....
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Old Nov 9, 2011 | 05:38 AM
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Bump for an update?
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