Hey guys, just doodling away with some article topics, anyone wanna que in, maybe point out any grammar/flaws, or wanna add to the discussion.. its for a website project


// Hellaflush: the end of good tuning? //

Just like protons, earths orbit, and your wife...
everything goes threw cycles. This hobby is
no different. We started with poor kids making
cheap cars go fast.. then imports blew up.. so
did the spray paint cans and neons. After much
progress racing was introduced into
main stream culture.

The birth of 10 second street civics, track ready
s2000's by the handful, and nasty over engineered
time attack cars dominating the asphalt...
what could have gone wrong..

Over night something that started as a trend
became a virus. How close can you come to
making your once beloved sports car
completely useless.

At meets you can hear people
swapping back and forth
how hard it is to drive..
manhole-covers taking out oil pans...
cops hassling them.

During this time, in the corner of the garages across
the world wrenches stood still. The once red hot glow
of welding sparks now replaced by fender rollers
and bolt on fender kits.

All that's missing is the big wings.. ****..

We have gone full cycle again..
back to big *** body-kits, and bolt on parts.

Man up. Pick up the wrench.

No more trying to have that Ferrari F40 that
was on your wall growing up....

 

it's just a trend, there are always people building real cars in the background, it will die a slow painful death like APC did,

 

I don't think it will die. It's a part of car culture now and is linked with a lifestyle. Believe it or not it's here to stay and you either hate it or love it but you shouldn't be so concerned with another person's style. We aren't all the same therefore we have different styles and taste. I have a stanced s2000 but also have a 500 hp civic si. I like both styles.

 

Where's the article? Looks like a long rant to me. And no tech to be had. You should take this to GDD.

 

Once something new pops up, people will move on to that. There will still be some flushers, but most will go along with the new fad.

 

This is very much a lifestyle within its own.

But if anybody know about the import car culture all of these scenes have already been established in Japan and china. It's just the American way we see something and market that bitch as in if you are Steve jobs and your company is apple.

This lifestyle and culture I highly don't think its going anyway where, because this is just another pocket in this huge import scene. I hate the look but if you ask one of them what you think about having a 700hp Honda they would prob would say the same thing
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Expanding a bit more tonight, to kinda cover for the people that do this.. at-least some perspective and hope..

This is really good tho, just get some debate/dialect going..

 

"Hella flush" (and that makes me want to kill people for 2 separate reasons) and "stanced" aren't new. It's 60s lowrider style applied to more modern cars.



(And yes, I know a swing axle is forced to have that much camber in the rear when lowered that far, but it helps make the point.)

 

I honestly don't understand how "hella-flush" is a "lifestyle"? You put some offset wheels and stretched tires with a f*cked up camber, when your done putting it on that's it, they just drive it like that from then on. So how exactly is it a lifestyle? It's not something your tinkering with constantly or always working on it. When it's on it's on, I don't see how driving with a ridiculous camber is a lifestyle? Care to explain?

It's like putting an exhaust on your car, after the install it's done. Is having an exhaust a lifestyle?

 

Actually, you are constantly tinkering / working on it. Absurdly fast wearing tires, shredded tires from rubbing, destroyed bushings and axles, the occasional need for a replacement wheel from blowing out a tire caused by using the wrong size, etc...

"Lifestyle" only means "A set of behaviors, and the senses of self and belonging which these behaviors represent." Be a good little sheep and follow the herd, you're part of the lifestyle.

Having an exhaust isn't a lifestyle, unless the specific exhaust you use makes you feel part of, or be recognized as part of, a larger group. The JDM N1 fart canisters qualify one as part of the ricer lifestyle.

 

And WTF is "the scene" anyway?

 

A way of saying "culture" while demonstrating an inherent superiority complex.

 

Some of these cars I've seen people tooling around in, really don't scream "superiority" nor do their drivers. I like all kinds of cars. But I tell you I'm thinking about ditching this Civic so as NOT to be associated with the "scene" and all of the immature idiots running around in it.

When a hobby gets to the point where it's degraded to the point that anybody and their grandmother can get into it and represent it BADLY, then it's time to get out of it.

 

^^^ It's been like that for a while, no one wanted to be associated with honda's when all the bodykits/wings/neons were "in".

 

And my exhaust statement was a joke, not sure why you took it literal.

 

Great discussion guys, i really want some back and forth with someone from the stanced/hellaflush scene..

end of the day we love to throw our opinions around, which is why this is such a hot topic for debate.

as long as people are having fun and being respectful of other people..

everyone wins!

 

^^^ sounds like you want an internet fight! haha Honestly some setups with offset wheels tuckin with a little camber, but too much stretch and pokin out with a ridiculous camber looks ridiculous honestly, they must love going through expensive tires.

 

If you're going to do something, do it right. This morning saw a kid in an Integra tucking tire. No crazy camber or anything like that BUT instead of having his fenders rolled he had them CUT. badly. And the edges were still exposed and were dark with rust.

This is the kind of thing that ruins your "scene".

 

If you're doing what you do for other people, you're doing it wrong. Dumb kids doing dumb things to their cars don't give me a bad name. I do what I want with my car for my own reasons. I'm glad there's still interest in these cars because it keeps the aftermarket scene healthy and the forums active.

 

lol awesome. I never have, and never will get the hype behind this trend. The base argument is looks, but when you break it down these cars look decent from one maybe two angles and like mismatched piles from every other.

Tires don't fit, camber makes the car look like it was in a horrible accident and that's the extent of the mods it takes, so I can't really keep going haha

 

I agree with above statements, other than the "it keeps the aftermarket scene healthy, and keeps the forums active". Actually a lot of people have left honda-tech and the honda scene in general because what it has become. And as for the aftermarket, actual performance companies are losing out, while wheels and camber kit companies thrive. It's terrible. A friend of mine is selling his built k20 swapped dc2, complete tuck and shave, nice wheels and lowering job. The car is done how hondas should be, but he is selling his car to get away from the honda scene because of what it has become, no other reason.

 

You bring up a really, really good point... is people are leaving the honda scene..

I don't know about other people, but I'm gladly voicing my opinion and trying to force people that destroy Honda's out of the scene..

As far as the bad, we gotta balance it out with good.. and that's a strong community, good knowledge/car building fun/aftermarket part scene..

unfortunately the aftermarket part scene is anther big issue with me.. the Taiwan coil-over company's, people that have no business selling parts/services

shrug, little by little.. article by article... meet by meet..

 

I would also like to add that ebay and other knockoff brans are destroying the aftermarket business, real companies take years perfecting/testing new designs and materials to make their stuff better, then knockoff companies come along and copy everything from the real company using much cheaper material/parts, and alot of people are buying knockoff. When the real companies go out of business, there is going to be nothing new coming out because knockoff companies will have no new designs to copy off of.

And well for one, all v8 guys laugh at honda's, and it has gotten so bad that other import owners even laugh at honda. It's going way downhill. I wish there was something we could do about it, but sadly noone has control over what other people do.

 

People are leaving the scene because the only good Hondas are 15 or more years old.

 

That's why I'll be keeping my Integra until who knows when.