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Old Oct 23, 2011 | 04:09 PM
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We are putting together our car for next year and some questions came up about the fuel setup.

And beleive me, ive been searching. But theres nothing when it comes to using these pumps together.

Setup- 84mm GSR
Stock ctr head and cams
t3 6765

Looking to basically max the t3 6765. or 750+

We were thinking a 255 walboro feeding a bosch 044.

1. Can the stock "sending unit" flow enough

2. What size line do we run? Do we run all new line from the 255 forward? Or do we use the stock sending unit and then just run big line from the outlet of that?

3. What will ID1000's support with this pump setup (aeromtive regulator)
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Old Oct 23, 2011 | 06:02 PM
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-8 supply and -6 return should be good..
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Old Oct 23, 2011 | 06:18 PM
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First what type of fuel are you planning on running?e85,e98,q16 etc..? also why not consider something better than the walbro 255lph.little outdated seeing as how then even have a higher flowing version out now.something like the walbro 400,(still not too sold on it yet though) aeromotive 340lph, deastchwerks 301lph


https://honda-tech.com/forums/showthread.php?p=45085781
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Old Oct 24, 2011 | 01:46 PM
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the 255 would only be to feed the 044. If anything, it would be a aero 340.

The fuel is upto my tuner. Ill find out what he prefers. It wouldnt be e85 or anything like that tho.
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Old Oct 24, 2011 | 02:25 PM
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the 255 would only be to feed the 044. If anything, it would be a aero 340.

The fuel is upto my tuner. Ill find out what he prefers. It wouldnt be e85 or anything like that tho.
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Old Oct 24, 2011 | 02:28 PM
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-8 feed -6 return in most setups.
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Old Oct 24, 2011 | 02:42 PM
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would it be -8 from the outlet of the 255? or -8 from the outlet of the sending unit?
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Old Oct 24, 2011 | 03:40 PM
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I ran a 255 feeding an 044 last year. Also with -8 feed and -6 return on VP C16. I think 750whp might be pushing it on this setup. Maybe with a high enough base pressure you could do it.
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Old Oct 24, 2011 | 04:03 PM
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Default Re: fuel line sizing

yeah after looking at the ID flow chart, it seems ID2000's are in order.

when people use just 2 044's, how do they feed them? Do the submerse 1 in the tank in the stock location? I dont wanna sump the tank if i dont have too.
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Old Oct 24, 2011 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by gc8dc95
I ran a 255 feeding an 044 last year. Also with -8 feed and -6 return on VP C16. I think 750whp might be pushing it on this setup. Maybe with a high enough base pressure you could do it.
what did this setup make?
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Old Oct 24, 2011 | 04:18 PM
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the 044 isnt a submersive pump and it doesnt need to be gravity fed. you can run a line from the tank to the pumps. you can do parallel or series with the pumps. i think most do parallel with the 044's. get a 8 or 10 from the back of the tank or a sump to feed the two 044's and put those into a y block back to a single 8 to the front and your good to go
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Old Oct 24, 2011 | 04:25 PM
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https://honda-tech.com/forums/drag-racing-36/%2A%2Apost-your-fuel-system-questions%2A%2A-2554490/

There is a BUNCH of info in this thread for you to use! Hope it helps
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Old Oct 24, 2011 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbo-LS
the 044 isnt a submersive pump and it doesnt need to be gravity fed. you can run a line from the tank to the pumps. you can do parallel or series with the pumps. i think most do parallel with the 044's. get a 8 or 10 from the back of the tank or a sump to feed the two 044's and put those into a y block back to a single 8 to the front and your good to go
yup, so after talking it over with a friend, this is what we are doing. Prolly gonna sump it.

But if we didnt want to, what do you mean by running a 8 or 10 "from the back of the tank"?

New plan. id2000's, 2 044's, and an aeromotitve FPR.

Quick side question, whats the max power difference in a t3 6765 to a t3 6262? It seems both top out at 750ish?? If thats the case, id rather have the smaller of the 2, right?
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this is mine with a1000 setup with full race sump kit,
but i would reccommend the weld-on 1100a pump as it is much quieter with more longevity (im switching soon)
but i run 10 feed from sump to inlet of pump with a 100 micron filter between, from the outlet is 8 an with a 10 micron filter, to rail, then regulator to a 6 an return to 6an fitting welded to stock inlet line on top of tank.

only downfall with sumped tanks is not having a full enough tank and hitting the brakes too hard makes it run out of fuel for a split second.

by the way nevermind the mix match colored fittings, we only had but so many black ones laying around the shop!
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Old Oct 24, 2011 | 04:53 PM
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tuner just got back to me,

the fuel will be q16 or c16
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Old Oct 24, 2011 | 04:56 PM
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Default Re: fuel line sizing

that setup is pretty much exactly what i had in mind
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LOL at needing a -8... V8 guys have been making power on -6 forever....

That said....

Mine:
H22 @ 89mm
Sleeved and built top to bottom
FIC 1100s (Bosch based)
255 HP in tank with sock
044 under feet
Trick Flow 10 micron filter before rail
-6 feed, stock return (ALL -6 fittings drilled out, and banjo bolt inrto tank drilled out and indexed).
Aeromotive FPR
60 PSI base
9K RPM

Dedicated relays and 12 guage wiring to power the pumps.



750 WHP/ 575 TQ at 35 PSI (falling to 31 up top to be fair) on T04zr and C16



1ms left at peak TQ, 1.5 ms left up top IIRC.



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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 02:16 PM
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thanks man, i just sold my PT1000s thinking they werent enough, but now, who knows
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 02:32 PM
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PT 1000s wouldnt have been. You made the right choice. Go with a bosch based injector... The atomization makes for DRASTICALLY improved idle and part throttle fuel conservation and performance I had the 1000s before these, Theres absolutely NO comparison.

PTs dont play nice with high base pressures either.

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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 03:35 PM
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im gonna go with ID1000s i think. I would do 2000's but they are like 1000$s new, lol.

Just bought a whole bosch setup

x2 -8s feeding x2 bosch 044s, then "y"s into a filter and comes out -10 to the rail. With a -8 return, all for 400 shipped, including pumps.
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FICs are cheaper and EVERY bit as good.
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by extralargenog
FICs are cheaper and EVERY bit as good.
i just texted our tuner about them. As far as the fuel setup goes, he makes the final call, cause if it gets to him and its not 100% for our goals, it was a waste.

and the response was "id1000s"
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Originally Posted by 93supercoupe
im gonna go with ID1000s i think. I would do 2000's but they are like 1000$s new, lol.

Just bought a whole bosch setup

x2 -8s feeding x2 bosch 044s, then "y"s into a filter and comes out -10 to the rail. With a -8 return, all for 400 shipped, including pumps.
Link to web page?
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 05:31 PM
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used parts, in the drage racing f/s thread, page 3 or 4
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Originally Posted by 93supercoupe
i just texted our tuner about them. As far as the fuel setup goes, he makes the final call, cause if it gets to him and its not 100% for our goals, it was a waste.

and the response was "id1000s"
Ive had both FIC dollar for dollar are better. ... And well, you already know my fuel setup... and numbers.


The FICs are cheaper then the IDs too...

edit: and bosch based as well

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