HardRace bushings input - anyone use them on the ITR?
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Here is what I am about to order:
I also will be ordering rear lower control arm bushings as well, or if I can get them with the bushings pre-installed I will go that route. Anyone have any input on these parts?
I can install the front camber kit and front lower arm myself, will probably have a shop do the RTA and compliance bushings as well since they require a press. I am told the rear lower arms might require a press as well?
Hardrace Front Camber Kit 94-01 Integra DC
Review Item $179.00 $179.00
6106
Hardrace Rear Trailing Arm Bushings 94-01 Integra DC2
Review Item $75.00 $75.00
6120
Hardrace Front Compliance Bushings 94-01 Integra DC2
Review Item $65.00 $65.00
6130-DC
Hardrace Front Lower Control Arms 94-01 Integra
Review Item $189.00 $189.00
Total $508.00
I also will be ordering rear lower control arm bushings as well, or if I can get them with the bushings pre-installed I will go that route. Anyone have any input on these parts?
I can install the front camber kit and front lower arm myself, will probably have a shop do the RTA and compliance bushings as well since they require a press. I am told the rear lower arms might require a press as well?
Hardrace Front Camber Kit 94-01 Integra DC
Review Item $179.00 $179.00
6106
Hardrace Rear Trailing Arm Bushings 94-01 Integra DC2
Review Item $75.00 $75.00
6120
Hardrace Front Compliance Bushings 94-01 Integra DC2
Review Item $65.00 $65.00
6130-DC
Hardrace Front Lower Control Arms 94-01 Integra
Review Item $189.00 $189.00
Total $508.00
i had purchased the whole set. the only ones i wasn't happy with was the front compliance bushings. the large metal washers that attach to each side would not get snug against the bushings, there was a gap. as far as the others they all fit fine.
i have a set in my R, i like them, i would buy the rear lower arms with new bushings already on them. I could not get them pressed out, then again, i was trying to do the install myself.
overall great product imo
overall great product imo
I installed their full bushing kit on my '98 and it was absolutely the best thing I did to that caR. I purchased it and other Hardrace stuffs(motor mounts, shifter bushes, endlinks) from DOHCGarage on ebay.
I worked out a barter with a machinist with a press to do all but the RTA bushes. I picked up the Schley tool to do it myself.
I worked out a barter with a machinist with a press to do all but the RTA bushes. I picked up the Schley tool to do it myself.
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Hmmmm yah a bunch of the Honda specific shops will only do spherical installs in fear of collapsing the rubber bushings....argh....there's gotta be a better way.
I'm very happy with my PIC/SUJA1 SONEM kit. I got these a year ago for $225 for the whole set of 30+ bushings. It's possible to install these yourself if you have a shop press.
http://www.suja1motoring.com/product...px?productId=2
I believe you can also get the full Hardrace set for $250-300 if you buy it all at once.
http://www.suja1motoring.com/product...px?productId=2
I believe you can also get the full Hardrace set for $250-300 if you buy it all at once.
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Yah thing is I am buying the arms with the bushings pre-installed. So I can't buy the whole kit otherwise I end up with a lot of doubles on bushings that I'd have to sell.
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Wait now that I am looking at the compliance bushings....it's just a remove and replace right? Theres no press required. The only one that needs a press is the RTA and the rear lower control arm assuming I might not be able to get that part with the bushings preinstalled.
i got the whole kit for my itr and + the motor mounts as well.
motor mounts feel a little bit stiffer than stock .. but the rest feels pretty much like stock.
pretty good stuff
motor mounts feel a little bit stiffer than stock .. but the rest feels pretty much like stock.
pretty good stuff
The compliance bushing just bolts on.
The front and rear LCAs require a press, and can be very difficult to remove without a hot flame. You'll need a press to install them.
The RTA bushings can be removed/installed with a somewhat expensive special tool, or with a large hammer. I believe they can be removed with a hammer & some sort of large punch, provided they are off the car. They can certainly be installed that way.
The front and rear LCAs require a press, and can be very difficult to remove without a hot flame. You'll need a press to install them.
The RTA bushings can be removed/installed with a somewhat expensive special tool, or with a large hammer. I believe they can be removed with a hammer & some sort of large punch, provided they are off the car. They can certainly be installed that way.
Good stuff, in the process right now of replacing everything. Got the rear done, front is next. Only difference is I have F7 lca's and PCI spherical RTA bushings
I purchased the full HardRace bushing kit for my car (PIC was on backorder). In retro, I wish I would have done things differently:
-Purchased PCI spherical RTA's (You track which is the only reason I'm mentioning this)
-Just lower compliance bushings
-FLCA
-HardRace Front/Rear sway bushings/endlinks
The Rear LCA, UCA's, and toe-links are up to the user. If they are running aftermarket or plan to run aftermarket then purchasing bushings for these items is a waste.
-Purchased PCI spherical RTA's (You track which is the only reason I'm mentioning this)
-Just lower compliance bushings
-FLCA
-HardRace Front/Rear sway bushings/endlinks
The Rear LCA, UCA's, and toe-links are up to the user. If they are running aftermarket or plan to run aftermarket then purchasing bushings for these items is a waste.
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Hmmmm....so coolhandluke you would run the Spherical RTA even on a car that you drive ocassionally on the street? I have been hearing I would be losing teeth from the rough ride, but if it's not that bad I will consider it.
I also hear sphericals require replacing and maintenance more often than a typical rubber bushing. Kiwi also has told me not to run sphericals on a street car so I really just dont know what to expect. Someone running sphericals in the bay area that wants to let me go for a ride? LOL
I also hear sphericals require replacing and maintenance more often than a typical rubber bushing. Kiwi also has told me not to run sphericals on a street car so I really just dont know what to expect. Someone running sphericals in the bay area that wants to let me go for a ride? LOL
I have the PCI RTA bushings, ride is still good. A bit of a "clunk" sound when u go over the larger bumps. But still very streetable
You don't need the special tool to get the rear trailing arm bushings out. You can tap it out with a small sledge. You can do it with them still attached to the car so you don't mess up the alignment. There's a video on youtube.
so whats the deal with the spherical rear rta bushings? would you have to lube them everyone once in a while? and i dont really understand why people say theyre not good for street use?
I can't find bushings specific to the swaybar endlinks on either the hardrace site or on ebay...are they named something else? TPV? Im slow, what does that stand for?
I'm in the process of replacing my bushings with PIC/Sujas and should have them all done by next week. A buddy of mine has a press so it should hopefully be a smooth install.
Hardrace has the sealed anti-dust pillow ball RTA's so you don't have to worry about having to lube and maintain them.
http://hardrace.com/precise.asp#2
http://hardrace.com/precise.asp#2
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