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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 09:07 PM
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the other day i was getting my oil changed and the Mech. told me that it's necessary to have the power steering to lube some **** up, so it won't dry up. was he just trying to add on sales or what ?
p.s i have the power steering on just not the belt.

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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 09:36 PM
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another words is it save to run the p.s without the belt
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 10:15 PM
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i've ran without a belt for a good while on my setup, so long as the fluid reservoir was topped off

this is similar to the loop power steering racks everyone does, they just remove all the uneeded parts and retain fluid in the rack
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by thelaoskid
another words is it save to run the p.s without the belt
pretty much my bad i always tend to say **** complicated lol
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 10:30 PM
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i've ran without a belt for a good while on my setup, so long as the fluid reservoir was topped off

this is similar to the loop power steering racks everyone does, they just remove all the uneeded parts and retain fluid in the rack
for sure, i'll make sure on that
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 10:39 PM
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Power steering fluid is to lubricate pump and gears....guessing u should always have tht topped off...the belt off isnt a big deal ^1+
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 10:40 PM
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Just remove the whole ps... didnt help for me
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 12:08 AM
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Ya your title sounded retarded :]


Easy fix, remove belt as stated.
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 03:04 AM
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The best bet is to get an electronically operated power steering pump from an MR2, for example, and mount it and run your power steering fluid that way as an electrical accessory instead of a belt driven accessory.

Power steering can be very handy when you're spinning around on the track and would like to correct it. Without power steering it's very difficult to do this well.

Last edited by Libertariat; Jul 13, 2011 at 07:41 AM.
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ek forever guy
The best bet is to get an electronically operated power steering pump from an MR@, for example, and mount it and run your power steering fluid that way as an electrical accessory instead of a belt driven accessory.
I know with enough money anything is possible... but I am assuming this is a 'reasonable and common' upgrade for Civics that already have power steering, correct?
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 07:39 AM
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The cx hatchback ill be getting in a few days came without power steering... The difference is day and night between a disabled p/s system and one that didnt come with it in the first place. It's a lot easier to turn than one with a looped rack or pulled belt...
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by DSMAddicted
I know with enough money anything is possible... but I am assuming this is a 'reasonable and common' upgrade for Civics that already have power steering, correct?
A guy in the autocross forum posted up a "tutorial" on fitting a Toyota MR2 electronic a/c pump into his civic and just ran it off of the fuse box. Just have to get the a/c lines to the pump.
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by hyperblu
The cx hatchback ill be getting in a few days came without power steering... The difference is day and night between a disabled p/s system and one that didnt come with it in the first place. It's a lot easier to turn than one with a looped rack or pulled belt...
A looped rack is also harder to turn because power steering racks are typically closer ratios since you have the assistance from the power steering pump. So even if properly converted it's just going to be more difficult as the gearing is shorter. I.e. less leverage.
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 07:48 AM
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A looped rack is also harder to turn because power steering racks are typically closer ratios since you have the assistance from the power steering pump. So even if properly converted it's just going to be more difficult as the gearing is shorter. I.e. less leverage.
^^ exactly... alot less fight with the wheel when you're not moving..
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by hyperblu
^^ exactly... alot less fight with the wheel when you're not moving..
I'll deal with a looped system for a while after I get my swap done, but I plan on finding an electronic pump and running that.

h2b w/ac and power steering. Gangster.
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by ek forever guy
I'll deal with a looped system for a while after I get my swap done, but I plan on finding an electronic pump and running that.

h2b w/ac and power steering. Gangster.
Alot of H series swaps dont have a/c or p/s lol... You'll be the fortunate few. lol.
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by hyperblu
Alot of H series swaps dont have a/c or p/s lol... You'll be the fortunate few. lol.
A lot of them willingly don't have a/c, the stock h22 in a prelude runs a/c and the alternator on a serpentine belt, so frame-rail clearance is not an issue. It's just a matter of mounting it up like it comes from the factory.

Power steering is a different story since it is typically ran on a separate accessory belt that occupies precious frame-rail clearance.
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 11:13 AM
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Default Re: Is power steering really important

i couldn't find a cheap mr2 powersteering pump so right now my h2b setup is running the stock ls power steering pump its inline with the crank and alternator
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by aznfreakyguy
i couldn't find a cheap mr2 powersteering pump so right now my h2b setup is running the stock ls power steering pump its inline with the crank and alternator


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