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dont like what i see with my compression test - 120,120,120,120

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Old May 1, 2011 | 09:58 PM
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Default dont like what i see with my compression test - 120,120,120,120

i did a test on my ls vtec i have a b16 head on a b18b1 block and im running ls pistion block has been rebuilt only has 9000 mils on it but the test showed 120,120,120,120 dont know why it would be so lowand dont know what to think
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Old May 1, 2011 | 10:11 PM
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did you do the test with the throttle open or closed?
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Old May 1, 2011 | 10:26 PM
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did you do the test with the throttle open or closed?
all the way open
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Old May 2, 2011 | 12:10 AM
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Those numbers are low, but the fact they are all 120 seems to make me think you did the test wrong.
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Old May 2, 2011 | 03:52 AM
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Default Re: dont like what i see with my compreshion test

What would the compression ratio be with the LS pistons and a B16 head?
Seems to me it would be low, but not that low.



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Old May 2, 2011 | 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by mcvtec
What would the compression ratio be with the LS pistons and a B16 head?
9.98:1
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Old May 2, 2011 | 06:02 AM
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Was the engine hot or cold when the test was done?
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Old May 2, 2011 | 09:52 AM
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so at a 9.98:1 CR what should the readings say? sorry if its a dumb question lol
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Old May 2, 2011 | 09:57 AM
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Valve timing check it
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Old May 2, 2011 | 10:43 AM
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Valve timing check it
i got skunk 2 cam gears so it is tdc but the ony thing i could think of is i had a dirty air filter and yes the motor was at temp
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Old May 2, 2011 | 10:48 AM
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Did you do it with all plugs in or out?
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Old May 2, 2011 | 10:50 AM
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Do the test again, and drop a little oil into each cylinder before you test it. Then come back with the new numbers.

EDIT- try another tester if possible.
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Old May 2, 2011 | 11:28 AM
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as they seem consistent its not necessarily a bad thing. you should be near 170-180 in ur compression test. did you just install these cam gears or have they been on? what made u to decide to do a compression test?
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Old May 2, 2011 | 11:29 AM
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Default Re: dont like what i see with my compreshion test

Originally Posted by 98civdx
Do the test again, and drop a little oil into each cylinder before you test it. Then come back with the new numbers.

EDIT- try another tester if possible.
ok so i did another test put some oil on the oring of the tester first and got 130,130,130,130 then i went back and put some in the cylindars and did the test again and got the same numbers so i got no change except that i was loseing 10 lbs frome the oring on the tester and befor you ask yes i had my foot to the floor and yes the motor was hot
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Old May 2, 2011 | 11:30 AM
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Is it burning any oil? Smoking?
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Old May 2, 2011 | 11:31 AM
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Did you do the test with or without the remaining plugs removed?
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Old May 2, 2011 | 11:36 AM
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Is it burning any oil? Smoking?
no its not burning any oil or smoking and yes i had all the plugs out
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Old May 2, 2011 | 11:44 AM
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http://www.rbracing-rsr.com/compstaticcalc.html
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Old May 2, 2011 | 11:47 AM
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i just went to this other forum, like this one, and they had a whole bunch of calculators. It said it was just a ballpark estimate, but being as how i dont know all that much about the engine its better than nothing. From what he told me - the heads have been "tweeked" but are still stock, its got an aftermarket cam, the cranks been balanced, and the pistons are aftermarket. From what i can see - the heads are still stock with aftermarket springs and rockers, it definitely has an aftermarket cam, the crank is balanced, and theres got to be more than that, so i think the pistons had to have been switched out. I really dont want to tear the engine down, but i know thats the only way to tell for sure. Ive never measured the dome/dish on a piston, so how would i know what that is? The website gave me this (ballpark estimates):

8:1 - > 102.9 psi
8.5:1 - 102.9 > 110.25 psi
9:1 - 110.25 > 117.6 psi
9.5:1 - 117.6 > 124.95 psi
10:1 - 124.95 > 132.3 psi
10.5:1 - 132.3 > 139.65 psi
11:1 - 139.65 > 147 psi
11.5:1 - 147 > 154.35 psi
12:1 - 154.35 > 161.7 psi


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http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/how-...tio-66664.html
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Old May 2, 2011 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by pityocamptes
according to that chart he is right in the range then, correct? 120 being a little low, and 130 being spot on
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Old May 2, 2011 | 01:35 PM
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U said ur timing is at TDC ? It needs to be at 16 degrees BTDC. timing will defiantly affect ur compression test.. test the cylinders dry all plugs removed then wet test. Compare readings.
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Old May 2, 2011 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by tico
U said ur timing is at TDC ? It needs to be at 16 degrees BTDC. timing will defiantly affect ur compression test.. test the cylinders dry all plugs removed then wet test. Compare readings.
Mechanical timing is at TDC, ignition timing should be at 16° BTDC. Ignition timing has no effect whatsoever on a compression test.
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Old May 2, 2011 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by pityocamptes

I dont think these are accurate IMHO. my friends Compression was 150psi (stock d15b7) 9.2:1 CR and my built 10.5:1 CR came out to 150psi same tester. tested same way
these are guess' and do not apply to every single motor. other factors may lessen or increase compression. :different cams (bigger-aftermarket), cam not dialed in, valve leaking, rings bad, valve lash etc.
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Old May 2, 2011 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by owneyboy
I dont think these are accurate IMHO. my friends Compression was 150psi (stock d15b7) 9.2:1 CR and my built 10.5:1 CR came out to 150psi same tester. tested same way
these are guess' and do not apply to every single motor. other factors may lessen or increase compression. :different cams (bigger-aftermarket), cam not dialed in, valve leaking, rings bad, valve lash etc.
all i know is my motor runs great and it shows 20 lbs of vacume when at idle wich i know is good so it could just be that cams could be a little out
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