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Old Apr 24, 2011 | 01:43 PM
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the previous owner of my em1 replaced the b16a2 with a b16a3. he put some kind of aftermarket im on it. will it still have the same power? it doesn't seem to have the power it should.
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Old Apr 24, 2011 | 01:53 PM
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B16A2='99-'00|Civic Si (EM)-USDM-160hp@7600-111tq@7000
B16A3='93-'94|del Sol VTEC-USDM-160hp@7600-111tq@7000

Only difference to my knowledge is that they either converted your car to OBD1 or they simply changed the bottom block and kept the old head
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Old Apr 24, 2011 | 02:00 PM
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Same engine pretty much.....

all second gen B16A's had the P30 intake manifold on it, it is a kiss *** design and makes more power than most aftermarket models
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Old Apr 24, 2011 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by MistahJuice
B16A2='99-'00|Civic Si (EM)-USDM-160hp@7600-111tq@7000
B16A3='93-'94|del Sol VTEC-USDM-160hp@7600-111tq@7000

Only difference to my knowledge is that they either converted your car to OBD1 or they simply changed the bottom block and kept the old head

They also had the Obd2 B16A3 in the 96-97 Del Sol Vtec. But more that likely its just converted to OBD1.
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Old Apr 24, 2011 | 02:34 PM
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from what he told me, he swapped the dist. nd injectors over to obd2. i don't know what intake manifold it is. I do know it has a p2T ecu. i had to bypass the cfk..it has a greddy header on it, would 3" exhaust help?
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Old Apr 24, 2011 | 02:39 PM
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pics?
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Old Apr 24, 2011 | 02:42 PM
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it should have bout the same power except there could be other things.. some motors come gifted and some motors come bad..it sounds like i think you need a dyno run to c where its power is and then dyno tune it again after a few more upgrades to c how much better u do..oh yea bigger piping will help out pretty good.. better air flow but remember, you need back pressure to so be sure to put a muffler on..
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Old Apr 24, 2011 | 02:43 PM
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hey maybe it could also be the ecu too.. are u running on limp mode? is check engine light on? if it is it could be limp mode thats laggin u down..
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Old Apr 24, 2011 | 02:54 PM
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no cel..i am going to see if i can find a place around here to dyno it. I will take pic of im, maybe someone can tell me what it is
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Old Apr 24, 2011 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by hondaluver19
They also had the Obd2 B16A3 in the 96-97 Del Sol Vtec. But more that likely its just converted to OBD1.
Still they same engine...even the dizzy, it's internally the same with the same wires even. Swapping plugs could be done in minutes....otherwise, there is really nothing to convert

It's the ecu that actually dictates the obd, but doesn't really play much of a role in 2nd gen B16 engines themselves
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Old Apr 24, 2011 | 04:26 PM
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any ideas..
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Old Apr 24, 2011 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by hondaluver19
They also had the Obd2 B16A3 in the 96-97 Del Sol Vtec. But more that likely its just converted to OBD1.
There are no OBD2 B16A3s, '96 - '97 Del Sol VTECs got the same B16A2 as is the one found in the '99 - '00 Civic Si.
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Old Apr 24, 2011 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by scott_turner
any ideas..
That looks like a Aebs
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Old Apr 24, 2011 | 05:16 PM
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are they decent?
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Old Apr 24, 2011 | 05:29 PM
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are they decent?
they are ok, but a little on the cheap side as far as build quality goes. I know if you over tighten the throttle body, the mounting area's will split/crack
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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 06:34 AM
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There are no OBD2 B16A3s, '96 - '97 Del Sol VTECs got the same B16A2 as is the one found in the '99 - '00 Civic Si.

You are right. I was almost positive there was when i was researching these a few years ago. But after researching again.... there isn't one. Except for one website that i believe is unreliable. Thanks for the correction.
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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 06:38 AM
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That looks like a Aebs

x2. never used one or knew anyone that used one.
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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 07:39 AM
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from what i know the b16a3 had a longer gear ratio tranny like the GSR's.
there 2nd was longer than most b16 trannys.
correct me if im wrong.
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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 07:39 AM
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Default Re: b16a2 vs b16a3

but besides that the motor and everything is the same.
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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 07:39 AM
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Default Re: b16a2 vs b16a3

and that intake manifold looks like an AEBS intake manifold.
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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 07:46 AM
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Default Re: b16a2 vs b16a3

Originally Posted by Deetz
Same engine pretty much.....

all second gen B16A's had the P30 intake manifold on it, it is a kick *** design and makes more power than most aftermarket models
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