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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 05:11 PM
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Looking at buying an LS.
Was told its Darton sleeved with a block guard. I have terrible eyes. From pics, looks like Honda Sleeved with a block guard. Wanted some better eyes to check it out.
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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 05:36 PM
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i may be wrong but that def looks like a block guard

u can see spacing between where it goes in and the walls. sleeves are all one piece.

sorry bro. u didnt pay a **** ton for it did u.
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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 05:43 PM
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Default Re: Is this block sleeved?

Haven't bought it yet. And yeah I know it's a block guard. But, are the sleeves oem or is it sleeved.
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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 05:45 PM
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Default Re: Is this block sleeved?

they are def stock honda sleeves.. there is a darton rep on the site.


these are there sleeves that have the "stock" look.

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...&tx=100&ty=138

and look how much thicker they are stock.
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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 05:48 PM
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Default Re: Is this block sleeved?

Darton sleeve kits i've sold for Honda block had their own block guard and look different slightly.....the one you pictured doesn't look right

Check this link out, this is what i mean.....

http://www.exospeed.com/store/index....11_259_260_261

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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 05:55 PM
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Default Re: Is this block sleeved?

Originally Posted by Deetz
Darton sleeve kits i've sold for Honda block had their own block guard and look different slightly.....the one you pictured doesn't look right

Check this link out, this is what i mean.....

http://www.exospeed.com/store/index....11_259_260_261

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thats what im saying it doesnt seem right and the walls look wayyyyy to thin to be sleeves.

i would throw it to the wind. whats the dude asking for it.
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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 05:55 PM
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Default Re: Is this block sleeved?

So just a block guard. Oem sleeves ?
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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 05:56 PM
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Default Re: Is this block sleeved?

Originally Posted by Woody.
So just a block guard. Oem sleeves ?
that would be my guess.
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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 07:11 PM
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Listen to this guy ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Old Feb 25, 2011 | 07:57 AM
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Default Re: Is this block sleeved?

Looks like stock sleeves. It may have thin wall lining sleeves. Usually you would see a slight bevel around the top of the sleeves on the thin wall lining type sleeves.
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Old Feb 25, 2011 | 08:02 AM
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Default Re: Is this block sleeved?

Kinda what I thought! I just need a damn sleeved motor.

Last edited by Woody.; Feb 25, 2011 at 07:52 PM.
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Old Feb 25, 2011 | 08:09 AM
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Default Re: Is this block sleeved?

stock......not iron-sleeved
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Old Feb 27, 2011 | 04:24 PM
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Default Re: Is this block sleeved?

Originally Posted by Golden Eagle
Looks like stock sleeves. It may have thin wall lining sleeves. Usually you would see a slight bevel around the top of the sleeves on the thin wall lining type sleeves.

Incorrect as usual... You don't know what a stock block looks like? Check the shop I'm sure someone can show you. You can knock these sleeves all you want like you did in another thread but they are the same sleeves Dart uses in their Honda blocks which we supply them.

The stock sleeves do not touch each other between the cylinders. Those actually look like the 300 series sleeves. It hard to tell by the pick but the sleeves slightly over lap each other between the cylinders. Since the flange is a little bigger than bore center the sleeves are installed staggered, #1 and #3 first and when you cut for #2 and #4 it makes a slight relief in the flange so they touch.
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Old Feb 27, 2011 | 07:00 PM
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Default Re: Is this block sleeved?

So those are darton sleeves.
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Old Feb 27, 2011 | 07:10 PM
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Default Re: Is this block sleeved?

They're the cheaper sleeves, not the M.I.D. sleeves that people usually talk about when they talk sleeved motors.
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Old Feb 27, 2011 | 07:11 PM
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Default Re: Is this block sleeved?

Now, the question for Darton is what the strength difference is between the two types of sleeves.
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Old Feb 27, 2011 | 08:53 PM
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Default Re: Is this block sleeved?

Darton dry sleeves ?
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Old Feb 27, 2011 | 09:03 PM
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Default Re: Is this block sleeved?

yup. Dry sleeves. ANd the MID sleeves are wet.
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Old Feb 27, 2011 | 09:45 PM
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Default Re: Is this block sleeved?

Hmmm. I can buy an AEBS 84mm sleeved at the highest price
Or Eagle sleeved 85mm w GSR water pump Itr oil pump with eagle rods for sAme price as AEBS
or this LS that's 81mm plus eagle rods for less than both...

I want some very definite confirmation on this being sleeved.
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Old Feb 27, 2011 | 10:44 PM
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Default Re: Is this block sleeved?

they look like aftermarket sleeves but i wonder how much hp they would be good to ?
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 05:47 PM
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Default Re: Is this block sleeved?

Good question.
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