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Old Jan 22, 2011 | 12:54 AM
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Default fresh rebuilt b16a2 .. p28 or p30

The car is a obd1 converted 97 ek.

Currently I am running a obd1 p28 computer with a freshly rebuilt b16a2, and p30 pistons. I wanted to push some extra power out of that engine with a p30 for right now until I boost the motor.

I talked to one of the tuners at benchmark tuning here in illinois and said that the p30 is completely garbage and will only do good with a stock b16, since it's an SiR computer. My question is ...

If I chip the p28 right now for a basic all motor setup that I have on the b16, will it out perform a stock p30 ?

The only difference I know between the two is that the p30 searches for knock and the p28 doesn't.
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Old Jan 22, 2011 | 05:54 AM
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Default Re: fresh rebuilt b16a2 .. p28 or p30

Originally Posted by EF9_TryMe
If I chip the p28 right now for a basic all motor setup that I have on the b16, will it out perform a stock p30 ?

The only difference I know between the two is that the p30 searches for knock and the p28 doesn't.
This all depends on the basemap put on the chip...
Once a p28 and p30 are chipped, the only difference is the knock board which is useless.
If you already have the p28, have it chipped & call it a day :-)

If you are going turbo down the road, consider what engine management you will be using.
For example, if you are using Hondata s300 it uses different socketing hardware then a standard chip/socket, therefor I would suggest going to Hondata s300 strait away.

Feel free to ask any other questions!
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Old Jan 22, 2011 | 06:47 AM
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Default Re: fresh rebuilt b16a2 .. p28 or p30

Originally Posted by mtber
This all depends on the basemap put on the chip...
Once a p28 and p30 are chipped, the only difference is the knock board which is useless.
If you already have the p28, have it chipped & call it a day :-)

If you are going turbo down the road, consider what engine management you will be using.
For example, if you are using Hondata s300 it uses different socketing hardware then a standard chip/socket, therefor I would suggest going to Hondata s300 strait away.

Feel free to ask any other questions!
I see. But I would have to only go to shops that are licensed with Hondata, and know how to use that program right if I were to Dyno tune it?

I'm not really familiar with the Hondata S300 program, but I want to learn more about it. If I just get it, doesn't it come with Tutorials and such on how to install it and a process that guides you throughout the tutorial ?
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Old Jan 22, 2011 | 06:56 AM
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Default Re: fresh rebuilt b16a2 .. p28 or p30

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I see. But I would have to only go to shops that are licensed with Hondata, and know how to use that program right if I were to Dyno tune it?

I'm not really familiar with the Hondata S300 program, but I want to learn more about it. If I just get it, doesn't it come with Tutorials and such on how to install it and a process that guides you throughout the tutorial ?
Incorrect, Hondata s300 can be tuned by anyone with a laptop.
Concerning tutorials, yes there is a help file, however it is not that easy to learn how to tune from a tutorial.
This is why it is usually a good idea to buy the system from a dealer that will pre-upload a calibration specifically for your engine setup for you based of another vehicle they have tuned. (Basemap).
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Old Jan 22, 2011 | 08:40 AM
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Default Re: fresh rebuilt b16a2 .. p28 or p30

When you mean buying the system from a dealer, like a hondata s300 p28 ecu or just the hondata s300 with a pre-uploaded map.

And by dealer, you mean like a performance shop right ?
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Old Jan 22, 2011 | 09:24 AM
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Default Re: fresh rebuilt b16a2 .. p28 or p30

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When you mean buying the system from a dealer, like a hondata s300 p28 ecu or just the hondata s300 with a pre-uploaded map.

And by dealer, you mean like a performance shop right ?
Either a performance shop that is a licensed Hondata dealer near you, or you can look through the sponsor forums here on honda-tech. There are many sponsors here (including ourselves) that offer a complete S300 package installed into a P28 for you
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Old Jan 22, 2011 | 10:58 AM
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Default Re: fresh rebuilt b16a2 .. p28 or p30

Originally Posted by EF9_TryMe
When you mean buying the system from a dealer, like a hondata s300 p28 ecu or just the hondata s300 with a pre-uploaded map.

And by dealer, you mean like a performance shop right ?
You can buy the system pre-installed into an obd1 compatible ecu or you can buy it as a module alone and have the s300 system installed into your compatible ecu.

Concerning a dealer, you can find a dealer on the internet or locally.

Make sure you not only shop around for pricing, but customer service.
Find out how long the company has been in business, ask them for testimonials etc.

Feel free to contact us directly, we guarantee the lowest price & the best customer service anywhere!
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