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Old Nov 18, 2010 | 06:01 AM
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I have a 1998 civic 2dr ex 1.6 D16y8 sohc vtec that I am replacing the head on. The casting # on my original head is P2J-5. It has the lost motion assy. on top. I purchased a remanufactured head for a D16y8 but it has a casting # P2J-1. It came with roller rockers and no lost motion assy. The heads look the same except for the valve train. Will I have any problems with this swap?
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Old Nov 18, 2010 | 06:04 AM
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does the new head have a vtec solenoid on the dizzy side?
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Old Nov 18, 2010 | 06:18 AM
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Yes, it has the solenoid on the back passenger side of the head. Everything seemed to be the same.
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Old Nov 18, 2010 | 07:59 AM
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It's from an auto y8
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Old Nov 18, 2010 | 09:12 AM
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Yes. It is an auto.
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Old Nov 18, 2010 | 09:21 AM
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^No, he's telling you why it is the way it is.
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Old Nov 18, 2010 | 10:38 AM
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People miss this every time. The Y8 does not have roller rockers. No LMA's and rollers = Y5
It's been debated how the Y5 head would work with the Y8 ecu because of how vtec and vtec-e differ. You would also have to deal with the egr passages on the Y5 that your Y8 doesn't have.
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Old Nov 18, 2010 | 11:10 AM
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So this head will not just bolt on and work without modifying in some way.
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Old Nov 18, 2010 | 02:21 PM
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In short you would much better off getting the correct head. I don't have much experience with the Y5 so maybe someone who does can chime in. Will it bolt to your block? Yes. Will your intake manifold bolt to the head? I think it will bolt up but I think the egr pasages on the Y5 head is where the water pasage is on the Y8. To get around this I beleive you would need to use the Y5 intake mani. Then you get to vtec vs. vtec-e. With vtec on a SOHC you run on 16 valves and when it engages the 8 intake valves operate off the high lift cam lobes.Vtec-e runs in a 12 valve mode (8 exhaust + 4 intake) which has a very low lift on the intake side for economy. When vtec-e engages (@ 2800-3000 rpm I beleive) it locks all 8 intake valves together so it now runs on all 16 valves with a slightly increased lift.
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Old Nov 18, 2010 | 02:25 PM
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https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-civic-del-sol-1992-2000-1/stock-00-civic-ex-blown-d16y8-will-d16y5-run-ex-ecu-harness-im-2851033/
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Old Nov 18, 2010 | 02:56 PM
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Well there you go. As long as you still have a useable valve train from the old head.
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Old Nov 18, 2010 | 03:41 PM
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Unfortunately the reason for the new remanufactered head was because the valve train is junk.
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Old Nov 18, 2010 | 06:42 PM
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Okay, so what I've gathered here is that the manufactured head you got for your engine is infact a Y5 head.

If you bought this from a legitimate shop, I'd bitch because they gave you the wrong part.
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Old Nov 19, 2010 | 04:23 AM
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Thanks for all the great info. I talked to the shop and explained the difference between the vtec and vtec-e. They are sending me the correct head. Without this forum I would have not questioned the head and would be scratching my head wondering why the car is running so bad!
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