HELP: How does changing the timing supposedly give me 15-50 hp?

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Old Sep 20, 2002 | 02:19 PM
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Default HELP: How does changing the timing supposedly give me 15-50 hp?

Hey all,

took my car in for a tune up today (ya ya I know, "do it yourself" etc, didnt have time and the guy did it for a small sack of weed- gotta love vancouver)

anyways my mechanic mentioned to me something about "changing the timing" something about "2 degrees" and he said I could gain 15-50 hp, but I'd be running on 92 octane fuel only.

can SOMEONE explain that to me please????
and why dont I hear about other people doing it? Is it harmful?

thanks!
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Old Sep 20, 2002 | 02:32 PM
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Anyone???


any input is appreciated, thanks
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Old Sep 20, 2002 | 02:45 PM
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Default Re: HELP: How does changing the timing supposedly give me 15-50 hp? (J-Tuner-BC)

where in vancouver do you live in ??

advancing your timming will gain you at most 2whp
and personally i dont think its worth it
what you are doing is changing the point of spark
advancing your timming will gain a little hp but it will increase engine temp and shorten engine life (stock spec is best)
and like you said you will have to run atleast 92 if not 94

its pretty simple to do it, you just need a timming light and know how to play with the dizzy
*edit* oh ya and you need a paper clip to jumper a connector while you play with the settings



[Modified by BlackCRX, 3:46 PM 9/20/2002]
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Old Sep 20, 2002 | 03:30 PM
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Default Re: HELP: How does changing the timing supposedly give me 15-50 hp? (BlackCRX)

where in vancouver do you live in ??
Richmond actually, but my life is in vancouver. thanks for replying btw.
are you sure about that crummy 2whp ?

ANYONE out there who can offer me another opinion?
Thanks in advance





[Modified by J-Tuner-BC, 12:38 AM 9/21/2002]
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Old Sep 20, 2002 | 03:39 PM
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Default Re: HELP: How does changing the timing supposedly give me 15-50 hp? (J-Tuner-BC)

pretty sure
alot of ppl do it and swear by it but its more of a mind thing more then anything
i few ppl have put it on the dyno and proven only .5-3whp
and it only works on certain cars
the new ones will recognize the advanced timing and retard itself

if your from vancouver/richmond you should check out
www.revscene.net
www.importclassifieds.com
www.vancouvercivics.com

those sites are very helpful to
hope to see you at the next crx meet
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Old Sep 20, 2002 | 03:41 PM
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heh thanks for the sites bro
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Old Sep 20, 2002 | 03:45 PM
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Default Re: HELP: How does changing the timing supposedly give me 15-50 hp? (J-Tuner-BC)

np
its nice to finally see some ppl from vancouver on here
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Old Sep 20, 2002 | 03:55 PM
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Default Re: HELP: How does changing the timing supposedly give me 15-50 hp? (BlackCRX)

heheh yeah...

**** I picked up my grampa's 91 civic 4dr... but the things an auto, and just blows goats. the good part is it only has 118,XXX km on it... awesome condition.

has some poorly done touch up paint spots on the hood and on some of the side, but aside from that it looks good.

I've been pooling my options: convert to manual? or just sell it and get an Si hatch?
I think getting the si is what I'll end up doing.
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Old Sep 20, 2002 | 04:10 PM
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Default Re: HELP: How does changing the timing supposedly give me 15-50 hp? (J-Tuner-BC)

Hey some local HT members, eh?? Well, I'm gonna be selling all my parts as soon as I get them off... Changine your timing may give you one or two hp, but run 94 octane. I ran my Y8 advanced and it made a little difference but not much.

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Black CRX, I don't see how advancing the timing will shorten the life of the engine, all you're doing is changing the time at which the spark fires for a more effiecent explosion... as long as you increase the octane content, it will be perfectly fine. Just as good as stock. BTW, I think the only cars that retard timing automatically are OBD-II.




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Old Sep 20, 2002 | 04:30 PM
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Hey some local HT members, eh?? Well, I'm gonna be selling all my parts as soon as I get them off... Changine your timing may give you one or two hp, but run 94 octane. I ran my Y8 advanced and it made a little difference but not much.
s'all about the locals sorry to hear about your crx btw it's a shame.

Black CRX, I don't see how advancing the timing will shorten the life of the engine, all you're doing is changing the time at which the spark fires for a more effiecent explosion... as long as you increase the octane content, it will be perfectly fine. Just as good as stock. BTW, I think the only cars that retard timing automatically are OBD-II.
thanks for the input
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Old Sep 20, 2002 | 04:55 PM
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Default Re: HELP: How does changing the timing supposedly give me 15-50 hp? (J-Tuner-BC)

to you canadian H-T'ers, how are the junkyards up there? any nice amenities like CRX armrests and power windows??? thanks. remember, we americans aren't so lucky with stock luxuries...
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Old Sep 20, 2002 | 05:45 PM
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Default Re: HELP: How does changing the timing supposedly give me 15-50 hp? (89_Y_49RIP)

BTW, I think the only cars that retard timing automatically are OBD-II.
[Modified by 89_Y_49RIP, 1:17 AM 9/21/2002]
Actually, that is the benefit of the new i-vtec engines....im pretty sure. In addition to switching to a seperate set of cam lobe profiles, they also advance and retard the timing accordingly. Theis is also the technology behind the toyota vvti engines
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Old Sep 20, 2002 | 06:06 PM
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Default Re: HELP: How does changing the timing supposedly give me 15-50 hp? (J-Tuner-BC)

Hey, thanks for the commiseration.

I dunno, that car was always giving me problems anywas. I just got it back today. I bought it back from ICBC and took my payout as well. I'm gonna pull out the Y8 and p28 ECU and sell it, and part out the car.

Hey that new I-VTEC sounds pretty cool! And I've always known that VVT-I kicks ****... I dunno, I guess I'm just used to workin on these old school engines!
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Old Sep 20, 2002 | 06:18 PM
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Default Re: HELP: How does changing the timing supposedly give me 15-50 hp? (89_Y_49RIP)

I wonder if the mechanic was refering to changing the cam timing? This would definitely get you some
extra horses, but you need adjustable cam gears and some experience.

cheers

greg v (also from vancouver)
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Old Sep 21, 2002 | 08:15 PM
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Default Re: HELP: How does changing the timing supposedly give me 15-50 hp? (89_Y_49RIP)

how much are you looking to get from the motor ??

the reason i say it will shorten the life is b/c if you dont run higher octane fuel and the increased heat on the block
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Old Sep 21, 2002 | 09:15 PM
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Wish I could get 50 hp from that.. if it sounds to good to be true, then it probably is.
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Old Sep 21, 2002 | 09:23 PM
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Hey i'm from Vancity aswell. we should have a HT CRX meet
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Old Sep 23, 2002 | 03:13 PM
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Default Re: HELP: How does changing the timing supposedly give me 15-50 hp? (TDRacing)

Hey i'm from Vancity aswell. we should have a HT CRX meet
CRX only ? guess I gotta wait till there's a civic sedan meet eh? lols

We should have a civic/crx meet, maybe in another couple weeks or something?

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