Long story short, I have a 95' Civic CX with an 100% internally stock ITR swap. I have scoured the GCR and from what I can tell the only class that allows my swap is Super Touring, STU to be specific.

If so, is there anyone running STU here? It doesnt seem that I have a chance at being competitive in that class. Very few people run STU in my region, every once in a while one of my driving instructors runs STU in his former World Challenge SRT-4 and he would mop the floor with me.

On a positive note, I recently found out that a regional club (ICSCC) has adopted the Honda Challenge series since there is no NASA events in the Northwest.

Worst case, Ill continue to run Track Trials only with the SCCA and compete in our version of HC when Im ready to step up to wheel to wheel racing.

 

Now im getting discouraged. I did some further reading and realized that the ICSCC Honda Challenge class is for cars prepped to H4 level only. My car, as it sits is an H2 car so Im still flapping in the wind.

 

cant run your civic in ITR? im not completely familiar with the class, but you should be able to run in itr

 

You can always move south...... we have better weather and more tracks than the logging trails you have up there???

 

Per the GCR Improved Touring section:

"To maintain the stock basis of Improved Touring, updating and/or backdating
of components is only permitted within cars of the same make,
model, body type (e.g., sedan, station wagon, convertible, etc.), and
engine size as listed on a single Improved Touring Specification Line."

Im assuming since it is a Civic with an Integra engine I do not fit in any IT class since it is not the same model. The statement about the items listed on a single Improved Touring Specification Line is not real clear to me, but Im fairly certain I cannot run in ITR. So far everyone Ive talked to in person couldnt give me a definite answer. Obviously, I havent spoken to the right people yet. If I could in fact run ITR then Id be happy.

 

Agreed, but thats about the only nice thing about California LOL! Plus, my wife is involved in rally and is rather fond of the logging roads. Id never be able to convince her of anything more than the occasional race weekend road trip.

 

Are you looking for "wins", "trophies", and "points"? Or are you looking to race? I know some don't know the difference and that this can be a source of disagreement, but ask yourself...

If you need all that stuff, and you want to run nationals in SCCA then STU might be fine. Or if you're running regionals, there being more of them in NWR, then maybe SPU. Most of the classes you can fit into probably run in the same race group, so the luck of the draw on finding a good race won't differ. And really, if you get yourself up to speed, and swap in a K22/K23, you should be able to trounce your instructor in his SRT4 (assuming his car is rules compliant in the boost department).

Scott, who when he returns to racing will be running in SPU...if they still have racing then...

 

^^
An occasional trophy would be nice, but thats not what Im in it for. I want to race, but I want to race competitively, meaning I want to have a chance rather then just get my *** handed to me every weekend.

Nationals may be in my distant future, but for the foreseeable future Ill be staying at the regional level.

Im having a hard time finding info on SPO/SPU. Im assuming its a regional class as the GCR makes no mention of it.

Whats this K22 you speak of?

Thanks for the help Scott.

 

STU has that table of weight to displacement, so whatever your practical minimum weight is sets your displacement limit. So you pick from K20, K24, or one or the other with a 92mm Crower crank depending on what works and which rod ratio religious sect you subscribe to.

SPU, last time Oregon Region published a ruleset (adopted by NWR), limits you to 2.3 liters. Close enough.

Scott, who would note that there is no escape, there will always be somebody to hand you your ***...which is why you must not neglect to learn to how to make entertaining excuses...

 

ST rules

I run in ITA. However, for seat time I will double up and run ITA and STU at the end of the month at LRP. Not going to be competitive in my CRX, but so what - seat time.

 

Hey, you're in olympia! Good news for you!

Oregon SCCA, and NWR-SCCA run a class called ITE.

http://www.oregonscca.com/media-libr...ules%20ite.pdf

Hope to see you out there!

Edit: ICSCC also runs ITE as well.

 

Don't even consider ITE. It got moved a couple of years ago to the run group with GT-1,2,3 etc. It's not so great running with cars lapping 10-20 seconds faster. And when they pass you at the end of a straight at about 170+ just as you've gotten on the brakes and their wake pulls on the back half of the car so violently that you can hardly believe it let alone control it, it's really not so great.

Scott, who used to run ITE, as did lots of SM guys, we don't anymore...

 

I know what thats like! You find yourself saying out loud.. What the hell was that?

Scott ...who shares the same sentiment with me in being on track with cars that have 3X the HP you have, and sneak up on you. very trippy!...

 

We can thank Fluge for this....

I honestly don't think it'd take too much arm bending to get it moved back. Once SCCA realises they lose a grand or so a race due to this, they'll move it. Numbers look TERRIBLE this year, and ICSCC is looking awesome.