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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 09:27 AM
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Default Rough idle, smoke, overheating

2 Weeks ago my clutch went out.... No biggie. I replaced it and while I was at it, I removed the thermostat, and replaced the stock fan on my aluminum radiator to a slim fan. When I took it for a test drive, it worked fine but my speedometer was not working. I stopped and connected it. (duh) Later I took it for another test drive and the car started to shake and it had a rough idle. I left it alone and the next day on my way to work it had the same sluggish rough idle. 20 minutes into my drive my check engine light goes on and suddenly my car begins to over heat. I made ity to work and I begun to reserach my problem.

Many people suggested when was the last time I did a tune up. (since the car is turbo charged) - It had been a while. I was eager to see if that would help the idling. As soon as I got home (overheating again) I put regular NGK spark plugs from Kragen (because they dont carry 7's and I was not going to drive the car anymore because it was overheating)

Once I replaced the plugs the idling went away... As far as the overheating problem, I figured if I put the thermostat back on it might make a difference.

Today as I drive again to work, no check engine, no rough idle, no overheating. That was until about 30 minutes into my drive. Then it got worse.

It starting throwing out a lot of smoke, and then the check engine light goes on, followed by my car overheating again.

I checked the oil for water and it is fine. Motor still feels strong. - Maybe I should put the regular NGK 7's back on (since it was tuned with them)?

I am going to put my stock fan back on - maybe the slim fan is not blowing hard enough?

How about the smoke??????? Turbo has no shaft play, and it was running perfectly prior to my clutch taking a dump.


This sucks.
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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 09:34 AM
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did you setup the fan to blow the correct way
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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 09:40 AM
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I think so..... It was mounted on my other radiator, all I did was remove it from my old one and mounted it to the aluminum one.
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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 09:48 AM
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Default Re: WTF WITH MY R

Originally Posted by BETOSCOUPE
...(since the car is turbo charged)...
found your problem.

haha sorry i couldnt resist. not sure whats going on with your caR, good luck and i hope you figure it out!
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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 10:01 AM
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air lock, wasn't full of coolant now needs a headgasket?
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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 10:14 AM
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Dont think so, all the power is still there. Normally when the head gasket is bad, you lose power/compression.
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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 10:21 AM
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I'll start chasing the smoke:
-Tail-pipe white smoke with a sweet smell means bad head gasket = cause bad idle and over-heating. Leak-down test is needed to confirm this.
-Black smoke could be bad rings seal. Need compression test to confirm this.
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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 12:25 PM
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Default Re: Rough idle, smoke, overheating

I have not changed a thermostat before but that does sound like a headgasket to me. I have heard of rough idle and overheating from to much air in the coolant system. Did you "bleed" the air out of the coolant lines. How hot did the car get while overheating? Factory temp gauge are pretty bad and don't show true temp changes like they should. GL
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 02:31 PM
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I just found out that the rings went out..... )*(&)*(^%$*^%$^%&*
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 02:58 PM
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ouch! sry to hear that man! good luck on the rebuild!
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Old Aug 20, 2010 | 12:00 PM
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Thanks..... Next up. 84mm bore, 9:5:1 Arias pistons, eagle rods, and a Garret GT30R - Dayum.... my wife is going to be one pissed off lady lol
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Old Aug 21, 2010 | 08:46 PM
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I think you have cracked a sleeve... good luck...
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Old Aug 22, 2010 | 02:05 PM
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Am I the only person who stops and reads the MIL as soon as it turns on?
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