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Old Jun 15, 2010 | 09:02 AM
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Hey whats up guys heres the situation,

I drive a 93 Honda Civic hatch with an OBD1 B18A1 motor in it that has been rebuilt by me. Anyways a problem that I have been having for a long time is this. Everytime while driving at part throttle as soon I let of the gas the car backfires. I pull the plugs and they look very lean. (Electrodes look white and porceline is completly white.) I have a fuel pressure gauge installed and the fuel pressure is at 38-40psi during idle.

Do you guys think it would be worthwile to take off the intake manifold with the injectors still attached so that I could see the spray pattern of the injectors. Sometimes the car is also dificult to start.

Things I've checked:
Igntion timing is good
Engine timing is good
Fuel Pressure good
NGK plugs from Autozone 2.99 w/ proper gap
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Old Jun 15, 2010 | 09:24 AM
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Old Jun 15, 2010 | 09:43 AM
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Backfiring indicates unburned fuel in the cylinders. Did you check the ignition timing with the service connector jumped? What conditions are the plug wires, cap, and rotor?
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Old Jun 15, 2010 | 11:57 AM
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Plug wires were replaced about 3 months ago with oem plug wires. Cap and rotor are in relative good condition.

Yes you're right backfire does indicate unburned fuel. I was thinking with a poor spray pattern from the injectors there would be poor atomazation or mixing of the fuel rusulting in a lean condition. Later, that exess fuel that never got mixed well would then ignite later in the exhaust stream which causes the backfire. I dont know for sure just a hunch. bump
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Old Jun 15, 2010 | 11:58 AM
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And RonJ@HT I like your sig. That what Im trying to do.
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Old Jun 15, 2010 | 12:01 PM
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Old Jun 15, 2010 | 03:18 PM
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if its runing excessivly lean it can create hot spots and lead to detonation and backfires have you checked map ect sensor and O2 sensor ? all effect air/fuel ratio
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Old Jun 15, 2010 | 03:21 PM
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no havent checked the map. If I dont have a check engine light doesnt that mean the sensor is working fine?

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Old Jun 15, 2010 | 06:36 PM
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Old Jun 16, 2010 | 05:40 AM
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Old Jun 16, 2010 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by averyvm
no havent checked the map. If I dont have a check engine light doesnt that mean the sensor is working fine?
not always. check engine light is more for emmisions then driveablity . what year make motor is it ?
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