It's 4 gauge from home depot, it's thick but with few strands.
I was told I cant, that I need some multi strand four gauge
the car has cold start issues in the mornings and I think this might be why.

THanks

 

yup..where did you find those connectors at??

 

Yup? I can or can't use it? =]
The connectors are at home depot, near the light bulb section

 

i dont see why you cant use them.have you seen the OEM ones? lol.they are small.Or just get a bigger gauge if you dont trust those.

You edited it didn't you

 

the reason why people are telling you cant use the wire is because it isn't multi stranded its large core wire which is prone to breaking in the high heat high vibration environment of the car, if your looking for affordable wire check out your local welding supply store, that wire you purchased is designed for use in the home where it will sit and not move, its just not flexible enough, Ive seen plenty of installs where that same wire was used and the angles of the bends will snap the wire inside the shielding and have poor or no continuity, i mean you can but that may be your issue

 

wrong that wire is ideal for high heat and vibration we use it on boilers ,pumps, and all kinds of mech/electrical equipment and stronger multi strand breaks very easily

multi strand makes a better connectin and has more copper per gauge

 

haha! i love this statement i guess my ee degree and master mecp cert means nothing to your boilers, its designed for home use in something that dont move obviously why would they put multi stranded in EVERY vehicle made? oh yea cause it works better and dont break as easily, its only common sense man think about it, solid stranded wire is used mostly in homes, sold at home depot, but *** it lets put it in my car, you really have no clue man, prove your science if you think your right, multi stranded is way more flexible and way more reliable in any vehicle, ive had sooo many customers come into the shop after doing an amp install with the same home depot wire and breaks all in the cable.

 

lol, this is too funny, but ed4 civic is correct, you need MULTI STRAND, not LARGE or SINGLE core.

 

i agree 4guage should be fine, just get something multistrand

 

Any car audio shop can make you 4ga wires for ground and power. If you talk to the right person, you could possibly get them made for a 6 or 12 pack of cold ones. I know i've made plenty of them for customers. Just make sure they solder and heat shrink the ends. If you can, get 0 or 2 gauge and do the grounds in a less noticeable spot.

And if you care for the technical on the wire, the higher strand count will allow more amperage to flow, in addition to being more flexible. Also looks much nicer. The solid core wire will have less resistance and offer a more solid ground reference, but won't flex as easily.

 

i never said anything about solid wire ,im talking about stranded thhn wire sold in home depot and the multi-stranded wire sold in auto shops and radio shops

if u look at the wire they sell at autozone if is almost if the same multistrand count as thhn wire the radio shop wire or even welding cable has more strands in it and stranded wire does mean more flexabiliy but ess strength easier to break and i do agree wih the crim solderand heat shrinking to make ground cables and it will get u a better connection bcuz u can get more surface contact with it

but i do not agree with the extra amperage and handling more heat

and for ur info everything in a building moves espeacially in a mechanical room everything moves alot plus vibration is a constant issue

IM a electrican with a master license

 

iv'e seen all wire break from poor installation weather it is stranded wire from HD or the ones from radio shops

ppl cut them wrong, stick it in the hole wrong either dont tighten it or a mixture of all

 

for cars its always better to crimp the wire

this will give it better support, a better conection, look better

if u could even solder it and heat shrink thats a plus

 

The reason that multistrand can transfer much more power per guage is because electricity travels on the outside of the strands, not through the middle. so if you have 2 4 guage cables, one with 40 strands and one with 10, the one with the more strands will carry more electricity because of the strands extra surface area.

 

??? travels on the outside?? electricity follows the path of least resistance and follows it through the whole stranding of copper not just the outside, multi or solid 4 ga carries the same amperage per awg measurements the difference in resistance is nominally small, so small its insignificant, the problem here isnt the electrical flow or anything like that, hes using the wrong kind of cable! stop with this bad information festival

 

For DC (Direct Current) in typical conductor material like copper, aluminum, silver, etc., the conductor's charges are flowing distributed uniformly throughout the material.

For 60Hz AC (alternating current) in typical conductor material, the current is concentrated in the outer few centimeters of the cable. So if your cable diameter is less than one cm or so, then the current flows everywhere inside.

However, as the frequency increases, the current tends to get channeled closer to the surface of the conductor. At frequencies well above 60Hz, the current in the center of the conductor can be considered non-existent for all practical purposes. That is why radar units (which operate at frequencies anywhere from 1GHz to 15 GHz or more) usually transmit their electrical energy through waveguides, which are really hollow tubes, either circular or rectangular. At those frequencies, no current exists anywhere except at the surface, so the hollow tube is effectively just the skin with no center. At UHF and microwave frequencies we can significantly improve the conductivity of copper cables and waveguides by applying a thin coating of silver.

For a detailed mathematical and theoretical treatment, look up "skin effect" on Wikipedia.
This is also why power cables designed to carry AC are stranded, that is, made up of many very thin wires. The heat generated by electricity flowing through the wire is inversely proportional to the surface area of the wire, in the case of AC (due to the skin effect). Thus, many thin wires increases the surface area, resulting in less loss.
It goes through inside like copper and conductor and more. The electricity could also go through humans and when we put our fingers and touch our fingers each other it is closed if someone is not touching the other people's finger it is a open circuit.

Source: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Does_elect...ugh_the_inside

 

awesome post! too bad all that info is for ac and the only thing ac in our vehicles is the alternator for about two second across the rectifier until its converted to dc, your reffering to the "skin effect" which has no application in anything in the vehicle unless you have your car hooked up to a power plant, your talking about extremely high voltage ac systems, AGAIN for the home, business, etc NOT for the vehicle

 

For DC (Direct Current) in typical conductor material like copper, aluminum, silver, etc., the conductor's charges are flowing distributed uniformly throughout the material.
reread that

 

I found an audio shop near by, I wonder if best buy would do it too

 

they might do it if you could talk one of them into it but best buy forbids custom work, or at least they did 6 or so years ago, and 0 or 2 Ga wires or a little larger than you really need if your just looking for a better connection, 4 Ga is plenty and wont tap out your wallet.

 

whatever strand it is who cares..i dont see the connected to the trans anywhere. the trans has to be grounded obviously. as long as you have that and the battery is grounded to the frame your good IMO

 

I have two running from the tranny bracket to my battery ground
YOu mean one should go to the chassis as a ground?

 

was referring to the first paragraph, but i figured i would show the whole thing because of you and your buddy's argument on home wiring or whatever BS was going on there. So u can have this back as i do not want it.

 

Why dont you just go to napa and buy the correct type of wire? They sell it by the foot, any gauge you want.

 

yes...possibly below where the battery goes, where honda attatched it at the factory