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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 01:23 PM
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ok so my 95 dx coupe started smoking just a couple days ago.. it doesnt always smoke just like when i take off from stops cant really tell but it looks like a blueish black color.. anyone know why its smoking that color?
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 01:40 PM
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since its early on i the issue, put a block tester on it and see if its a head gasket issue. if not it may be oil burning more than usual. rings may be shot or you may have head issues. you need to see about the head gasket to and start diagnosing the problem ASAP
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 02:29 PM
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sounds like rings... do a compression and leakdown test
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 03:19 PM
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ok where do i take it to do a compression test?? and if its the rings does that mean i just have to get a new block??
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by azandford
sounds like rings... do a compression and leakdown test
i beg to differ. it sounds like valve guide seals. piston rings tend to smoke all the time
valve guides tend to smoke when you're starting your car, taking off, or spankin it
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 03:32 PM
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well i dont get on my car at all just cruise it
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by jdm.coupe3234
ok where do i take it to do a compression test?? and if its the rings does that mean i just have to get a new block??
you can buy a compression tester from autozone for 50 bucks. if you are lucky they have one top rent. doing a compression test is really easy. pretty much pull out fuel pump fuse, crank make sure it doesn't start, pull a spark plug, thread the adapter plug in compression gauge let needle bounce three times thats the compression for that cylinder. replace plug. repeat for other three cylinders. refer to spec each cylinder should be within so much to pass
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 03:33 PM
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compression tester available from autozone. its a tool if you dont know since you were asking. second, a leak down test should be done bu a shop since i'm guessin you have never done that either. i'm not trying to sound like an *** but you were asking how you do the compression test so i would assume you dont know this stuff.
on the rings, well its tough to call that on here. new block not needed. however, there are lots of people who prefer doing the cheap thing and get junk yard motors. you can have a shop re machine the block for new rings but a shop will have to see it
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by RICKSAUTOMOTIVE
compression tester available from autozone. its a tool if you dont know since you were asking. second, a leak down test should be done bu a shop since i'm guessin you have never done that either. i'm not trying to sound like an *** but you were asking how you do the compression test so i would assume you dont know this stuff.
on the rings, well its tough to call that on here. new block not needed. however, there are lots of people who prefer doing the cheap thing and get junk yard motors. you can have a shop re machine the block for new rings but a shop will have to see it
it might be cheaper to rebuilt, depending on where you live. back in central ny where i use to live i could get a engine for 200 buck, but was quoted a five to six hundred rebuild (me taking the motor to them on a stand) but here in western ohio its "honda country" so they charge almost a grand for a d16y8. it would require local research
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 03:58 PM
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yeah here too its a price like that. its like maybe 10 hours (an estimated time) to pull and replace the engine. then its like 13-1500 for the rebuild. dealer timing belts, head gasket, dist. cap and rotor, and felpro gasket set (extra felpro head gasket gets trashed or given to the owner) and like as much as 500 for the extra remaining parts that are required for the warranty. this includes new fuel injectors, filters, sensors etc.
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by bizzerk89
i beg to differ. it sounds like valve guide seals. piston rings tend to smoke all the time
valve guides tend to smoke when you're starting your car, taking off, or spankin it
i also beg to differ i just had busted rings and it did not smoke all the time.... not trying to argue but they were busted for about 2 months and it only smoked when i got on it

OP do the tests and make a decision from there your best bet would be to swap in a used motor rather than rebuilding d series engines are plentiful
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 04:06 PM
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if you do the compression test make sure you get the car to operating temperature for a more accurate reading, good luck man, i got a 95 dx also. if the engines burned just swap in a b18b!! heres some info on the compression test http://www.team-integra.net/sections...ArticleID=1086
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 07:47 PM
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ok thanks alot guys you all have been good help
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 07:48 PM
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and no i didnt really know anything about a compression test or leak test.. i know about them just never knew how to do it.. im pretty mechanically inclined when it comes to hondas just didnt know how to do a compression test but thanks for the help
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