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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 08:31 PM
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OK so i own a 1999 honda accord, it was an automatic but i suffered from a blown transmission so i figured i'd do a conversion from automatic to manual. so i've been driving the car for a while and i realized my clutch pedal was getting stiff after a while from driving but would remain soft when sitting for a long time.so i read on a forum that washers were suppose to be placed on the clutch pedal and i had a friend do so and he adjusted it as well giving it "freeplay". but ever since then it seems as though i'm having serious issues with the clutch engaging....i have to literally slam my foot onto the pedal in order to shift and when i'm at a dead stop going into first seems to be a pain i have to keep hitting my foot on the cltuch pedal or stomp onto it...i've read and researched and my friend is swearing up and down its just a damaged clutch but something in my gut is telling me its not because i've had a stiff clutch pedal for a long time now and this clutch was replaced a month ago...from my research i've gathered that its probably a bad clutch cylinder, a leak somewhere in my line, or just a burned out clutch has anyone had any bad experiences with this....any info or personal experience can help
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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 09:48 PM
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When you did the swap, did you use new or used master and slave cylinders? was the throw out bearing replaced with clutch? How about the pressure plate? All those can cause problems with disengagement.
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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 10:00 PM
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Agreed need more info. It is possible your friend put to much adjustment on the the clutch pedal. How did he measure the free play. It is meant to measure agenst metal floor not carpet.

Carpet will lower clearance by about anywhere from a .25"-.50"
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 03:01 AM
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The fact you haven't mentioned anything about fluid levels, clutch condition, flywheel conditional, etc is leading me to think you should drop this off for a professional to trouble shoot.
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 04:23 AM
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sound to me like the master cyl or the slave cyl or possibly u just have air in the system.

+1 to what The Muff..Man. Drop this off for a professional to trouble shoot. Or if you know how to bleed breaks. You can bleed at the slave cyl. The best way to bleed is to use clear rubber hose and a cup of fluid, push rubber hose on the bleeder valve and other end in a cup of fluid and pump the clutch until there is no air in rubber hose. This work best with two people. Hope this helps you.
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 08:15 AM
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The fact you haven't mentioned anything about fluid levels, clutch condition, flywheel conditional, etc is leading me to think you should drop this off for a professional to trouble shoot.
in the thread i wrote that the clutch was replaced LAST month...clutch fluid seems fine...the slave cylinders and master cylinders were brand new...slave cylinder was from napa auto parts and master cylinder was from discount auto parts i believe.
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by g22aOnBoost343
in the thread i wrote that the clutch was replaced LAST month...clutch fluid seems fine...the slave cylinders and master cylinders were brand new...slave cylinder was from napa auto parts and master cylinder was from discount auto parts i believe.
Just because it was replaced does not mean it was replaced properly or what its current status is - which is what I was getting at.
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 09:18 AM
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OP: Is the clutch master cylinder the original style (plastic), or it is the upgraded aluminum type? Honda discontinued the use of the CMC's with plastic housing because they proved to be so problematic. If the parts you swapped when you went from A/T to M/T are the original plastic ones, I would say that it could very well be the CMC. I just had this upgrade quoted from Honda and its $457.30 for the new designed CMC, Slave, Damper Tube, and all the x-rings and clips that go with it.

EDIT: Thats $457.30 for the parts...that doesn't include labor.
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 99ColdTritonEX
OP: Is the clutch master cylinder the original style (plastic), or it is the upgraded aluminum type? Honda discontinued the use of the CMC's with plastic housing because they proved to be so problematic. If the parts you swapped when you went from A/T to M/T are the original plastic ones, I would say that it could very well be the CMC. I just had this upgrade quoted from Honda and its $457.30 for the new designed CMC, Slave, Damper Tube, and all the x-rings and clips that go with it.

EDIT: Thats $457.30 for the parts...that doesn't include labor.
i read bout ur thread already. the slave and clutch cylinder were both purchased from napa...but i believe the clutch cylinder most likely was just defective from day one. just a matter of knowing if Napa is willing to honor their 2 year warranty...i have to call them tomorrow...
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