Honda Accord (1990 - 2002) Includes 1997 - 1999 Acura CL

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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 10:32 AM
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hey it sounds like you know a lot more than i do about this f22b motor, i was wondering if it is possible to later down the road put a vtec head on it? the h22 head? excuse if asking an ignorant Q i was just thinkin and maybe you could help me out. i want to see how i can make this motor a bit quicker thanks
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 10:36 AM
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haha well you have me mistaken for someone with a clue about this engine. I've heard rumors of people putting H22A heads on the H23A1/F22B... For someone like me interested in FI, that prospect is not very appealing to me though. If I remember right people had to fill in oil gallerys and all sorts of funkyness like that.

theres a guy here named TeamElusive.. I'm not sure what his real knowledge level is on the F22B, but hes got one built up w/turbo.. might wanna check in with him. Anyone with a H23A1/F22B can help you since they are about the same.


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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 11:03 AM
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Use the search next time. Some people really hate it when someone doesn't use the search option. Anyway here is a thread that covered this not too long ago. Also if you use the search you might find more on the subject, I only posted one.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=258266
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 11:08 AM
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Default Re: ATTN. gimpy accord (pnewman3032)

F22B1 head on F22B2 is possible and feasable. H22 head on F22B2 is possible, but NOT feasable.
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 11:18 AM
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He's reffering to the JDM F22B .. not the USDM F22B1 or B2.


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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 11:21 AM
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Ooohhhh. I would imagine the the DOHC F22B shares the basic block layout as the H22, but I doubt the work will be worth it. The only feasable frankenstien engines are LSVTEC and CRVTEC. Even doing the H23/H22 frank would be a biatch and cost a shitload.
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 11:22 AM
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What??? Are you talking about the F22B DOHC non-VTEC, then putting a H22 VTEC head on it?
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 11:24 AM
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Oops, quess so. Sorry, I misunderstood.
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 11:25 AM
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Dont worry, so did I.
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 11:39 AM
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Gennady, the SiVTEC has been done before rather easily.
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 12:26 PM
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From my research the H23A1/F22B share more in common with the F22A1-4-6 (maybe the B1/B2??? but i think they have different rod lengths.. dont know much about the F22B1/B2) Than the H22A*.

Obviously that doesnt include oil/water passageways, but far as rod/stroke/BEB etc the F22A1-6/H23A1 are pretty close. H23A1 has a .039 bigger bore than the F22A1-4-6.

One interesting thing is the F22B/H23A1/F22A1-4-6/H22A share the same deck height (i'd wager a guess the B1/B2 as well)

I'm actually working on a H and F series engine Excel spread sheet with every possible spec ... so if anyone has thoughts/corrections etc lemme know. I would use journal widths for all the F and H series engines if you have them



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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 12:28 PM
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My F series motor guide is there to help you out.
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 03:15 PM
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I'm working on a spreadsheet for 90-97 (emphasis on the 5th gen) to break down all the specs (and differences). Let me know when you get that shiznat together.
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 03:28 PM
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unfortunatly its on my work pc (man i have a boring job), or i'd post the spreadsheet now... will paste a link to it tomorrow
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