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Old Dec 30, 2009 | 03:31 AM
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so i bought a 93 civic coupe a couple days ago.....its stock d16 sohc vtec...i picked up the car from my buddys started no problem was drivin an i realized the tach dropped than came back up....so i turned the car off it started after that so went for anthoer spin...now car wont start any ideas? it starts but dies inlike no time.. thanks alot
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Old Dec 30, 2009 | 04:18 PM
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bumpppp! no one any ideas?
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Old Dec 30, 2009 | 06:13 PM
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main relay? thats what im thinking
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Old Dec 30, 2009 | 06:19 PM
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Explain more.
maybe bad battery connection or relay.
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Old Dec 30, 2009 | 06:56 PM
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fuel pump?
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Old Dec 30, 2009 | 08:53 PM
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No start possible causes
1. Spark
2. Fuel
3. Inlet restrictions
4. Exhaust Restrictions
5. Voltage
6. Engine Mechanical
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Old Dec 30, 2009 | 09:05 PM
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Explain more.
maybe bad battery connection or relay.
I agree with the bad connections but I believe if a main relay goes bad the car wont start at all.
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Old Dec 30, 2009 | 09:49 PM
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coil? they're tricky lil bastards sometimes
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Old Dec 30, 2009 | 09:54 PM
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They don't have coil packs, they use a distributor.
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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 08:51 AM
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I agree with the bad connections but I believe if a main relay goes bad the car wont start at all.
Oh true. He said the car would actually start.
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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 09:28 AM
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Dont want to thread jack but im having a similar issue. when I was heading to work my guage would move up and down and when I went to a complete stop the car just died. no power what so ever. I tried turing the car and it would turn on but it would die right away. I waited about five minutes and started the car again. This time it stayed on. I drove back to my house and left it there. I called the previouse owner and he told me that he had problem with the igniton switch. Im wondering if I have to replace the whole thing with a brand new set of keys or just the wire. First I thought it was the alternator but im pretty sure its the ignition switch. Any thoghts?
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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 09:45 AM
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happened to me and all it was was the ground wasnt loose
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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 09:48 AM
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Check your transmission ground, thermostat ground, and motor ground.
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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 09:48 AM
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Exact thing happened to me, was just a loose ground.
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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by itsnotfast
They don't have coil packs, they use a distributor.
theres a coil in the distributor....
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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 11:43 AM
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I had the exact same problem and spent over $500 to have another distributor put in. That was a waste of money. It won't do it all of the time but sometimes the old girl just doesn't want to start. Sometimes after waiting ten minutes to 1/2 hour I'll try again and she'll start. I started using premium gas and it only happened to me once, briefly, since the switch to high test.

My guess is that one of the sensors is screwy, but only some of the time so it's near impossible to diagnose without a scanner at the house; which I don't have.

P.S. I don't think it's a ground wire because everything works except fire.
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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 02:03 PM
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like when i start the car it sounds like its gunna fire up but it just dies =( i think something with the charge system cant be right...like an altenator or bad battery connection or maybe loose ground....it cant be fuel pump i hear it prime...car has full wire tuck if that matters with fuse box in glove box...
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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by slow joe
like when i start the car it sounds like its gunna fire up but it just dies =( i think something with the charge system cant be right...like an altenator or bad battery connection or maybe loose ground....it cant be fuel pump i hear it prime...car has full wire tuck if that matters with fuse box in glove box...
exactly what you are describing could very much be a coil issue. its a common honda issue. i JUST went throught the same issue 5 days ago and my buddys went out over the summer, he paid $200+ for a shop to figure it out. I installed the new coil on mine and it fired right up like nothing was wrong. i'd say get a new or known good one, swap it, see what happens. its 3 screws for the cap, one for the rotor, two for the coil and two for the wires attached to the coil. simple. hope it helps
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Old Jan 2, 2010 | 12:09 PM
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update???
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Old Jan 2, 2010 | 12:15 PM
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check your alternator connections it will do that if your alternator is not connected well or is going out.
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Old Jan 2, 2010 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by slow joe
so i bought a 93 civic coupe a couple days ago.....its stock d16 sohc vtec...i picked up the car from my buddys started no problem was drivin an i realized the tach dropped than came back up....so i turned the car off it started after that so went for anthoer spin...now car wont start any ideas? it starts but dies inlike no time.. thanks alot
You could have a igniter, coil, or ignition switch problem. If you do not have the ability to test these things, it might be better to pay a shop to do it for you. People frown on that, but paying a $80 diagnosis fee is often cheaper than continually throwing new parts at it until you get lucky.

Originally Posted by skaternak
main relay? thats what im thinking
Its not the main relay. A main relay wont kill the car once its running, it will only prevent it from starting. So if it starts and runs, then dies, look elsewhere for your problem.


Originally Posted by cajuncharger
I had the exact same problem and spent over $500 to have another distributor put in. That was a waste of money. It won't do it all of the time but sometimes the old girl just doesn't want to start. Sometimes after waiting ten minutes to 1/2 hour I'll try again and she'll start. I started using premium gas and it only happened to me once, briefly, since the switch to high test.

My guess is that one of the sensors is screwy, but only some of the time so it's near impossible to diagnose without a scanner at the house; which I don't have.

P.S. I don't think it's a ground wire because everything works except fire.

This sounds like a classic bad main relay.
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 06:52 AM
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Where is the main relay located and is there a way to test it?
Thanks,
Bob
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 08:08 AM
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The main relay sits underneath the dash on the driver side.

It looks like this:


Here is how you can test it:
http://autorepair.about.com/cs/troub.../aa010301c.htm
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 11:08 AM
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Great info, thanks a bunch.
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