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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 10:50 AM
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Ive been having problems with starting my car and lately it sounds like the starter is just spinning and not catching anything.

New Battery.
New Starter.

So I talk to a guy who used to work for Honda, and he tells me that the new systems can sense when the clutch is going bad and it will somehow disable the ignition system.

Is he jerkin my chain? Or is this true. I dont want to spend anymore unneccassary money.

2007 FG2, 60,000 miles.
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 10:53 AM
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sounds a little far fetched....i've never heard of anything like that. I'll wait for someone who may know this answer.

EDIT: is the motor turning over when you try to start the car?
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 12:09 PM
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there is definitely some type of connection between the clutch and ignition system since you cant start the car if you dont push the clutch pedal in. i dont know exactly how it all works, but if the clutch is stuck or not fully disengaging, it might not be tripping whatever sensor/switch is needed to allow the car to start. thats my theory at least.
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 01:06 PM
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there is definitely some type of connection between the clutch and ignition system since you cant start the car if you dont push the clutch pedal in. i dont know exactly how it all works, but if the clutch is stuck or not fully disengaging, it might not be tripping whatever sensor/switch is needed to allow the car to start. thats my theory at least.
the car has a sensor on the clutch pedal, yes. it's the same sensor that disables your cruise control if you tap the clutch also.

on that note, the sensor will not even allow the starter motor to spin if the clutch is not fully pressed, which leads me to believe THAT particular sensor isn't to blame.
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 01:12 PM
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bump start maybe?
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 01:46 PM
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No teeth on the starter gear or flywheel....Rounded off or broke off
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 02:07 PM
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No teeth on the starter gear or flywheel....Rounded off or broke off
false. flywheel looks fine and new starter.
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ajpturbopittsburgh
No teeth on the starter gear or flywheel....Rounded off or broke off
I second this but i believe it to be more on the flywheel. Have you spun the whole flywheel to see if any teeth are missing?
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by nvynuke18
there is definitely some type of connection between the clutch and ignition system since you cant start the car if you dont push the clutch pedal in. i dont know exactly how it all works, but if the clutch is stuck or not fully disengaging, it might not be tripping whatever sensor/switch is needed to allow the car to start. thats my theory at least.
wouldnt this sensor be called the neutral safety switch?
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 03:57 PM
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If the motor is turning over and you can hear the starter then its not the clutch (nuetral saftey switch)
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 05:13 PM
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i thought the switch was on the clutch pedal arm?
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 06:37 PM
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it was on 01-05's but not sure about this gen. i'd venture to say so..
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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 08:45 AM
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bump for more answers please. i already ordered a new clutch kit because I feel it was worn a little anyway.
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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 04:36 PM
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Your friend is an idiot. Only the switch on the clutch pedal will keep it from starting. Unless you have mad crank walk, you either have a flywheel or starter problem.
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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 07:46 PM
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How about you take it to an actual dealership?
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Old Dec 20, 2009 | 06:06 PM
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the first dealer said it was a starter issue and yet i got that fixed and same problem.

im taking it to a different dealer tomorrow.
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Old Dec 21, 2009 | 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by =honda4life=
bump for more answers please. i already ordered a new clutch kit because I feel it was worn a little anyway.
Alright, does anyone mind if I sidetrack this thread for a second? The vehicle I owned before my Si was a 1987 Dodge Ram 50 that my dad bought brand new. This truck had 212xxx miles on it when I got rid of it, and still had the original clutch. So, what I am failing to understand is how a vehicle can be 2 years old, and you're already feeling wear in the clutch. Are you that bad on a drivetrain, dude? lol.
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Old Dec 21, 2009 | 06:03 PM
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not me. all my cars have been manual. my last car was a 98 civic coupe and i drove on the stock clutch until about 170k. The previous owner must have just learned...
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Old Dec 22, 2009 | 08:00 AM
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My new guess is that I should re-replace the starter with one from honda or something.

Only other issue I could think of is if the starter solenoid isn't functioning right. But with two starters?
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Old Dec 23, 2009 | 02:49 AM
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When you take the starter out turn the engine over with a long ratchet or something and look at all of the flywheel teeth. It's either a bad starter or a flywheel...
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