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Old Nov 6, 2009 | 08:57 PM
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Default mini me starts, but wont stay running without gas

has spark, fuel and timing is good! I am out of options now. What else could there be? It turns over but wont fire. all help is appreciated..

please see last post. thanks guys!

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Old Nov 6, 2009 | 09:01 PM
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do you have fuel pressure? is there fuel getting to the injectors?
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Old Nov 6, 2009 | 09:04 PM
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What car and engine?

Have you checked cylinder compressions?

Are the spark plug wires attached to the distributor cap in the correct firing order?

Is spark bright white or weak orange or blue at the plugs?

Any CEL codes?
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Old Nov 6, 2009 | 10:32 PM
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Default Re: mini me wont start...

Originally Posted by 91teg_ls
do you have fuel pressure? is there fuel getting to the injectors?
yes i have fuel pressure..pump is priming.
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Old Nov 6, 2009 | 10:35 PM
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Default Re: mini me wont start...

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What car and engine?

Have you checked cylinder compressions?

Are the spark plug wires attached to the distributor cap in the correct firing order?

Is spark bright white or weak orange or blue at the plugs?

Any CEL codes?
yes..im getting compression.

and from what ive searched on here...firing order is

1 3
2 4...4 closest to dizzy and 1 closest to cam gear
spark is semi white/blue when i touch it to the valve cover.
and no im not getting any CEL codes.

im all searched out and out of ideas..
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Old Nov 7, 2009 | 02:42 PM
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Default Re: mini me wont start...

ok..i had a p28 ecu that was chipped before but the chip was taken out. the two jumpers and th erev limiter chips are still on there. i swapped that for my original p06 and it started. only problem is, it wont stay started unless i keep giving it gas. could it be my ignition coil or switch? it runs like a subaru when it is running
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Old Nov 7, 2009 | 04:32 PM
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help..anybody!
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Old Nov 7, 2009 | 08:02 PM
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Default Re: mini me starts, but wont stay running without gas

I know somebody has something to say..lol! Could it be my ignition switch or coil?
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 08:20 AM
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throw that motor away and put in a B series. call it a day.
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 02:18 PM
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Default Re: mini me starts, but wont stay running without gas

try a stock p28 ecu.
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 04:02 PM
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Default Re: mini me starts, but wont stay running without gas

Originally Posted by NOOdS
throw that motor away and put in a B series. call it a day.
lol..sorry im going h2b. Im waiting on my manifold from obx and axles from gator. im just doing this because i never have done a mini me and wanted to see how it is. Never thought i would run into this many problems.

If i use a stock p28, do you think that will make it stay on at idle with out gas?
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 04:14 PM
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u have LEAK in intake manifold this happen to me before get soappy water n trow it on intake manifold find out were is leaking from
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 04:25 PM
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Default Re: mini me starts, but wont stay running without gas

Originally Posted by accord2civic2prelude
lol..sorry im going h2b. Im waiting on my manifold from obx and axles from gator. im just doing this because i never have done a mini me and wanted to see how it is. Never thought i would run into this many problems.

If i use a stock p28, do you think that will make it stay on at idle with out gas?
i have a d15b7 bottom end and d16z6 head in my car. i have been running a unmodded p28 with no problems for a about a year now.
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 06:28 PM
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Default Re: mini me starts, but wont stay running without gas

ok..cool! the p28 that i am using was chipped but the chip was removed but the jumpers and the rev limiter chip are still on there. would that make a difference?

ekb16a...would a leak like that cause it to shut off when no gas is applied?
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 06:37 PM
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could be ecu
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 07:04 PM
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Default Re: mini me starts, but wont stay running without gas

With the p28 it wouldnt start at all. then i tried my stock p06 and it will start, sounds like a wrx like timing..but that was triple checked and it will not stay on unless i keep giving gas.
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 09:42 PM
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Default Re: mini me starts, but wont stay running without gas

anybody?
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 09:46 PM
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Default Re: mini me starts, but wont stay running without gas

try and virgin ecu
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 12:33 AM
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Default Re: mini me starts, but wont stay running without gas

my p06 is as stock as you can get. it should make it run decent, but with no vtec right? I have that plug in now and it starts but wont stay running. the p28, it wont even turn over..
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 01:14 AM
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Default Re: mini me starts, but wont stay running without gas

u have sensors mix up chnage tps n map switch em try that if has a leak still turn on i dint read ur post rite
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 01:53 AM
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Default Re: mini me starts, but wont stay running without gas

can you mix up the tps and map sensors?
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 07:08 AM
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Default Re: mini me starts, but wont stay running without gas

Originally Posted by accord2civic2prelude
can you mix up the tps and map sensors?
yes because its the same plug. It sounds very possible that you mixed it up, because you have to give it gas in order for it to run.
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 02:52 PM
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Default Re: mini me starts, but wont stay running without gas

but when i changed the head, i left everything hooked up, i just unbolted the intake manifold and puled it back. sorry, not that!
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 08:11 PM
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Default Re: mini me starts, but wont stay running without gas

Anybody have an idea of whats going on?
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 10:51 PM
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make sure your 1324 isnt mixed up had a friend get mixed up because his 1 wasnt in the right place make sure your 1 starts on the flat side of the dizzy
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