hi i was looking for good brake pads, ive been using oem ever since but i wanna try the after market ones, well just for daily street driving

i heard axxis and hawks both great too

any advice?

 

Hawk pads for sure. Great products

 

I hate brake dust though. But, a small price to pay for way better braking IMO.

 

im more on performance than looks
so i dont mind if gets dusty easily

thanks for the advice

 

hawks all the way... the thing brakes like a champ... buying big brake kits are a waste of money i think. try goodridge(made by brembo) brake lines, dot 5 or 6 brake fluid(motul) ,hawk pads, new rotors thats what i did and i could not believe it

 

thanks a lot
thats really helpful

 

Not to thread jack, but what about the rears? I already have Hawks and Brembo blanks up front... but, what about the rear? Would upgraded rear pads even be that noticeable? Or save the money and use it else where...

 

I would say go with hawks. I have tried both hawk and axxis and running axxis right now. I say they have about the same stopping power, not really heavily favored in either direction but the axxis does make a TON of brake dust.. My stock DC5 wheels look sprayed black right now. I'm lazy to wash but it comes off easy anyways. I think the price difference wasn't significant so if you can find a deal either / or, you won't be disappointed. They are still a huge difference from stock pads.

Hawk and new rotors are what I did too. I used EBC ultimax for the rotor, great stuff. I had them machined since I switched to axxis and still work great. ($12 each at just brakes ) However, I think that dot 4 is plenty if you are gonna DD the car. I did this for the track and held up great. Definitely do a brake fluid flush though. It make a world of a difference as well. Brake lines are a great investment too :D

The rear I would estimate that it does maybe 20 - 30 percent of the braking power.. When I went to change pads, the fronts were hitting the metal screamer / squealer or whatever it is called and the rear is still about 80 percent left. If you are looking to save money, I would say that you could probably get away with it. I usually buy the full set of front and rear for a discount but the axxis rears I bought are still sitting in the box as the hawks are still in hefty condition. Still stops great without new rears.

 

complete overkill for street driving. if you're heating up your brake fluid enough on the streets to a point that it's boiling or getting anywhere close, then you're doing something wrong. SS brake lines require more workto maintain compared to just the standard rubber ones. for the fluid, you should not even be coming close to the boiling point, so dot 5/6 would be completely unnecessary.

i will be needing new pads in a year or two and i'm still trying to find the best option that is affordable, dependable, no retarded squeaking, and something that doesn't have a high amount of dust.

 

+1 For daily street you really don't need that type of fluid. I went with DOT 4 just because I do track the car occasionally. I was also under the impression that you can't just put DOT 5 or 6 into the car? is that right?

 

The best brake setup...

Brembo blanks all around, Hawks HPS up front, stock replacement pads for the rear, DOT4 Motul brake fluid and SS brake lines. This will stop the on a dime!!!! I have this setup currently and I vouch for it. I also took off the heatshield that was around the front disc which helped to cool it down.

 

DOT5 and 6 are overkill for street and occasional track days. To run this setup you need to be doing crazy amounts of braking to run that! Braking systems needs to be upgraded completely!

 

A lot of locals here use the EBC Green and Red stuff pads.

 

+1 Heard great stuff about red stuff and have been referred to them more than once. Just haven't gotten to try them yet..

 

tires help out your braking distance more so than brakes. the stickier your tires, the more you can actually utilize an upgraded brake system.

 

thanks for the advice everyone and i decided to go hawks and it really works even though i only have 40% tire and stock rotors it works great

 

no it is not overkill to do stainless steel brake lines.. and it has nothing to do with fluid temperature.. they are used because normal crappy stock brake lines are rubber and expand under hard braking hence why the car doesnt brake that good and why the peddle feels soft.. stainless steel lines do not expand and all the pressure you put on the pedal goes to the brake pads and against the rotors. and about the brake fluid im sorry i shouldnt have recommended anything higher than dot4. i track the car every weekend and that is the best setup for me.. dot4 is perfect for everyday driving

 

Nah steel brake lines are a great upgrade no matter what you are doing. better feel all around. I don't think we mentioned it being overkill tho, just the fluid.

No worries man, I was actually more worried that you just pour it right in after draining the fluid. That wouldn't be good. thanks for the follow up tho.

 

That was a no brainer but good for pointing it out! I figured people wouldn't really cheap out when it comes to tires but hey there are some that do...

 

pedals get soft when the brake fluid gets hot enough to heat up the rubber lines. for daily driving, he won't be getting brake fluid that hot unless he is riding the **** out of his brakes. yes, it will help slightly, but it would still be unnecessary. the difference would be minimal for street driving, which is what the OP is using his car for. that is why i feel it is overkill for the OP.

Depending on the OP's location, if it snows in his area and they salt his roads, his lines will rust.

 

stainless steel cant rust