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Old Oct 18, 2009 | 04:53 PM
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I need help please! I have oem jdm ctr power folding mirrors but lost my socket wire arangement diagrams. Now I have depinned wires that need to go back into the white sockets in the proper arrangement. If anyone is willing to help me, the black rubber triangles need to be taken off the bases along with two gold screws holding the white sockets to the bases for wire color access. I'm desperate! My mirrors have been sitting for way to long.

Sockets are white and have 8 slots like this
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Can anyone please give me the wire arangments as looking at the back of the sockets. Starting with the driver side. Hopefully I have the same color arangement as you.

example below is how you can send me your color schematics
your driver side top row L--> R : [Y/w][Y/r][Blk][empty]
your driver side bottom row : [y/blk][W][empty][empty]

Here are my wires colors for my drivers side.
Y/w, Y/r, Y/blk, W, Blk

Here are my wire colors for my passenger side.
Blk, Blu/blk, W, Y/w, Blu/g

My car is a 99 civic EX. Once again I need the color scheme on the back side of the white plug. The wires cannot be seen in this picture. The wires have needle point ends that can be depinned and repinned into the sockets. Thx in advance.
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Old Oct 18, 2009 | 07:35 PM
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Old Oct 18, 2009 | 08:35 PM
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This ought to help.
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 09:16 PM
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Need more specific color scheme, thanks tho!
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 04:46 AM
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Hmm, I am unclear as to what more you want. The document I posted has the wire colours on each side of the connectors (black and white side) as well as which hole it goes into, and the colour of wire on either side of the connector, and which colour mates with which!! eg., YEL/RED --> PNK at Pin 7.

Granted it doesn't have the locations for the folding wires (the BLK and WHT wires), but you're most of the way there already. BLK will always be ground, so if there's a BLK wire on the white connector side, then it will mate with your external black connector BLK wire.
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 07:27 PM
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Hmm, I am unclear as to what more you want. The document I posted has the wire colours on each side of the connectors (black and white side) as well as which hole it goes into, and the colour of wire on either side of the connector, and which colour mates with which!! eg., YEL/RED --> PNK at Pin 7.

Granted it doesn't have the locations for the folding wires (the BLK and WHT wires), but you're most of the way there already. BLK will always be ground, so if there's a BLK wire on the white connector side, then it will mate with your external black connector BLK wire.
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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 07:57 PM
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I didn't look at the diagram close enough. I'm on to something now. The back of my driver side (L) mirror has a white plate that has a black verticle rectangle with Y/blk wire and black wire. The other black horizontal rectangle has Y/w wire and black wire. The third is not visible until it comes out close to the end of the mirror wires. I'm not sure how to wire these to the colors in the diagram. Should I wire the "Driver Side" wires like this #7 Y/r #8 Y/blk #6 Y/w?

The passenger (R) side has Blu/blk wire with black wire on the verticle black rectangle. The horizontal rectangle has Y/w wire with black wire. The mystery 3rd wire at the end of the wiring is Blu/grn. I think this would be the proper PS arrangement: #7 Blu/grn #8 Blu/blk #6 Y/w. I'm not getting a reply from Deschlong. Can anyone let me know if my wiring guestimation has a chance of working before I try it out. Thanks
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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 08:03 PM
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Hey sorry man - my computer died the same day you PMd me, so I had other priorities... I'll have another look.
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Old Oct 29, 2009 | 07:46 AM
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Right - it looks like the JDM mirrors have different coloured wiring on the back than USDM.

Here is my best guess based on a number of 5th and 6th Gen Civic diagrams I've examined:

D/S (LEFT):
6 BLU/BLK to YEL/BLK for Left/Right operation
7 YEL/RED to YEL/RED as main (common or shared) power
8 BLU/WHT to YEL/WHT for Up/Down

P/S (RIGHT):
6 YEL/BLK to BLUBLK for Left/Right
7 YEL/RED to BLU/GRN for main power
8 GRN/WHT to YEL/WHT for Up/Down

This is MY best guesstimate. If you still want to make sure, try connecting 12V battery power (either your car battery or a 12V power tool battery) to the main power wire (eg., YEL/RED) and another wire to see if it operates Up/Down or Left/Right. From there, you can backtrack using the USDM power mirror wiring diagram I posted above.... ie., don't get hung up on the wire COLOURS so much as what they DO to move the mirror.
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