jdmdohcek98

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I need help with wiring the park release for a 00 auto to manual swap its different color wires than 96-98 and the how to I read only does 96-98. I have the 14pin plug and found the 2 thick black wires but I need the color of the third wire I need to wire in. Also what 2 color wires for the reverse light. Thank you

Axatax

** STOP ** - Do not wire the park wire into the starter wires!

That auto-to-manual writeup is _incorrect_ WRT to the parking brake wire.

Looking at the pigtail attached to the shifter, you need to wire the *thin* green/white with the *thin* black to allow the key to be removed.

This is very easy to verify with any of the service manuals. That writeup is wrong, is dangerous at worst, and will do nothing at best.

Axatax

Reverse:

Green/black and solid yellow.

jdmdohcek98

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Ok here's what I have



And you want me to do this and leave the thick black wires alone? Also whick green/white wire light or darker green?

Axatax

1 -- The two thick wires (black/white, and black/red) are your starter wires. These need to be connected together for the vehicle to start, or wired through a relay to be used as a clutch interlock.

2 -- The green/black, and solid yellow, directly opposite the starter wires are for your reverse lights.

3 -- The solid black wire is wired directly to the green/white to release the key from the ignition cylinder.

Axatax

Axatax

If you decide to wire the clutch switch, which you should, do not just connect the two 12AWG starter wires into the 22AWG pigtail on the clutch switch. This should be common sense.

You can use a relay as such:

30 - Black/Red
87 - Black/White
86 - Black/White
85 - Solid Green

You then ground the black wire on the clutch switch, then connect the blue wire on the clutch switch to position #11 (Red) on the automatic gear select connector behind the cluster (the ground that illuminates the "N" indicator light).

Axatax

Axatax

I have the green/orange also wired into the black in that picture -- ignore that, I'm using the green/orange for something else unrelated to the key release.

portenio78

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I did the auto/manual swap on my 2000 EX 6 months ago. Do not do #3 above, simply go under the dash and look for the big blue blox and unplug it. It is kinda above the gas pedal side. This will not let your key get locked in.

jdmdohcek98

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thanks axatax for your help

jdmdohcek98

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Axatax,

So I understand correctly cause I am a noon at wiring. I am going to solder the two starter wires together. Then as an option I can run a wire from that splice to the clutch switch black wire and ground it. Then run the red switch wire to the gauge cluster? Correct?

Am I going to need any other wires off the 14 pin plug above to run to the clutch switch?

Axatax

No -- if you do this you will most certainly have a fire.

You can do either of the following:

1 - Simply connect the thick black/white and black/red starter wires together. This will allow your car to start, even without the clutch depressed.

2 - You can add a relay onto the starter wires to enable the clutch interlock. Give me a minute and I'll do up a diagram of how this works. This is easier than doing it writing.

Axatax

Axatax

How/why this works:

1 -- The solid green wire on the gear select connector goes to ground when the automatic shifter is in neutral "N" (ie. connects internally within the device to the thin solid black wire).

2 -- This green wire ultimately connects to the ground for the "N" position indicator in the cluster (solid red wire at position #11).

3 -- This causes the "N" position indicator to illuminate.

This "mod" re-purposes the "N" position indicator ground, ties one end to the clutch pedal switch, and the other end to pin #85 on the Bosch relay. When the clutch pedal is depressed and the vehicle is cranked, a circuit will be completed within the relay connecting pins #87 and #30 together sending power to the starter.

This greatly simplifies the wiring for the manual conversion as nothing needs to be run from the clutch pedal switch to the console.

Hope this makes sense.

If you still have the auto cluster, the "N" indicator will illuminate when the clutch is depressed (actually kinda logical). If this is annoying, you can simply remove the right-most connector on the cluster or switch to the manual cluster.

Axatax

jdmdohcek98

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Ok I got it thanks a lot. Have you been able to get the cruise control to work? Seems like no OSU can't do it.

portenio78

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My cruise still works like normal. Even still turns off when you tap the brake pedal. But your also going to want to wire it up to the clutch pedal, or it will rev up when you clutch the car. This is a simple fix. Take the pink wire from the 14pin plug and run it to one side of the cruise switch on the clutch pedal. Take the black wire above the pink wire(this is just a ground)and run it to the other side of the cruise switch.

jdmdohcek98

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Will that interfere with the key interlock since I'm splicing that black wire to the green wire?

portenio78

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If your going that route, just ground the other end of the switch somewhere under the dash. IMO its easier to just look under your dash and unplug the blue interlock box and be done wiht it.

Axatax

No, that's fine, it's an unswitched ground.


And you don't need to run any new wire. The end of the pink wire is already right under the dash on the plug for the cruise unit.

M-benz

Ok so 86 and 87 connect together based on ur diagram ?

familyEGuy23

Nice diagrams lots of good info here does this apply the same to 92-95 civics?

Axatax

Yes. This powers the relay only when the starter is cranked.

familyEGuy23

i finished the relay part of this wiring, just need to connect the blue wire on the clutch switch to position #11 (red), do i simply butt connect the two (blue & red) and i'm good to go?
by the way thanks for the diagram Axatax