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Old Sep 17, 2009 | 07:50 AM
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So, I've had ESMM inserts for a while now but, I haven't installed them yet lol. Mainly because I can't decide between just getting new, full motor mounts or just doing the inserts like Innovative, or Avid Racing for example. I have second thoughts about doing the inserts because I hear a lot about how it will tear up the stock mounts over time, thus creating the need for new mounts anyway. After a little research, I found this link and it looks like an awesome idea. I was just curious if anyone on here has tried it. Looks like more of a permanent and reliable fix. Not to mention a cheap alternative to complete mounts. The video's been up since May of this year, but I'm sure it's been done for a while now. I plan on emailing S2 to see how the mounts are holding up to the track abuse as well as the hours spent on the dyno and the street. What do you think guys, and any input is welcome.

http://cms.skunk2.com/id/190/06-CIVI...-MOUNT-HOW-TO/
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Old Sep 17, 2009 | 08:35 AM
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Also, I know the mounts on the FG are different than the EP3 but conceptually the same idea lol...
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 01:14 PM
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Bumpizzle, anything guy's?
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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 03:02 PM
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Didn't do it to motor mounts, but I did try a similar approach on the large trailing arm bushings on my old '90 Civic Si. Worked OK, I guess.

Interresting idea for the mounts, though. Although I think it would only be good for the front and rear mounts. The side mounts move in a different motion and the epoxy may cause twisting of the mounts. Just assuming.
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 03:25 PM
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That is kinda funny. I did something similar recently, but used a diffferent product. I had a broken motormount that was found while I had the motor out. Instead of buying a new one I fixed the old one the same way. You will notice alot more vibration in the car after doing this. Especially at idle. It works, just clean it pretty well and scuff up the old rubber. I will have to look up the goop that I used to fill it.
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Perfectionist
Didn't do it to motor mounts, but I did try a similar approach on the large trailing arm bushings on my old '90 Civic Si. Worked OK, I guess.

Interresting idea for the mounts, though. Although I think it would only be good for the front and rear mounts. The side mounts move in a different motion and the epoxy may cause twisting of the mounts. Just assuming.
I did not get any twisting, but I was using something that when hard had a pretty low durometer and had no expansion in the setting process. worked pretty well actually, with no deformity of the stock mount.
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Perfectionist
Didn't do it to motor mounts, but I did try a similar approach on the large trailing arm bushings on my old '90 Civic Si. Worked OK, I guess.

Interresting idea for the mounts, though. Although I think it would only be good for the front and rear mounts. The side mounts move in a different motion and the epoxy may cause twisting of the mounts. Just assuming.
I agree, I would only do the front and rear mount anyway though. I don't even think the stock side mounts have a gap to fill anyway.

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That is kinda funny. I did something similar recently, but used a diffferent product. I had a broken motormount that was found while I had the motor out. Instead of buying a new one I fixed the old one the same way. You will notice alot more vibration in the car after doing this. Especially at idle. It works, just clean it pretty well and scuff up the old rubber. I will have to look up the goop that I used to fill it.
That's good to know. I mean it looks pretty straight forward haha.

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I did not get any twisting, but I was using something that when hard had a pretty low durometer and had no expansion in the setting process. worked pretty well actually, with no deformity of the stock mount.
Sweet, well if you are able to find out what you used that would be good. I might have to try this out and do a write up.
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 11:45 AM
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From watching that video, I pretty much did the same thing and used UV 6800. I'm working on getting the name of the manufacturer. The flow rate of this stuff is incredible. Comes out thick but after sitting it will find its way through any gap. It will take a day or so for the 6800 to harden so make sure you have the time. IIRC I did the rear engine mount only( because I didn't want to buy a new one). I will dig around and see if I have any pictures.
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 12:52 PM
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Awesome, that would be much appreciated.
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 03:05 PM
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when i used to work at speedy glass, i used DOW automotive primerless urethane (betaseal u-418) to stiffen up my extra set of b16 motor mounts and i never made a video but i did do a before and after comparrison for my local car thread but since the site crash over there i dont have a link for you of my little DIY

but what i can tell you is IT WORKS!!!!!! the stuff hardens like a rock and it GREATLY reduced engine rocking, you have my word!!!!

i COULD have used urethane with a primer(that we used for windshields SIKA Drive) it will last a lifetime and wont deteriorate unless ofcourse exposed to UV rays but under the hood there isnt any.

i still want to do this with the EP eventually

this mod is not expensive at all, 10 bucks for a tube and your set


betaseal primerless urethane fully cures in 24 hours till rock hard

SIKA drive urethane(used with sika primer) 6 hours till fully cured (or our stats 1 hour safe driveaway time for windshields)
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 03:11 PM
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Unfortunately, I do not have a picture to share, but I found a link to the product:
http://www.biosafe-inc.com/_images/e...800_retail.jpg
Take some time and play with this stuff, its pretty versatile!
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Old Sep 22, 2009 | 05:23 AM
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Is this just the "window weld" trick where you fill the OEM mounts with goo and let it harden?

The only experience I have with motor mounts are the ES inserts and the full Innovative replacement mounts. Hands down I'd say go with Innovative or any brand full mount replacement. Just buy it and be done with it. Once they're installed, you'll never need new mounts and they are SOLID.
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Old Sep 22, 2009 | 05:27 AM
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Yes, it's the goo filled method lol. I agree that new mounts would be the better option but, this is too show another alternative that is cost effective and will work.
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Old Sep 22, 2009 | 10:35 AM
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I bought the DIY motor mount kit on ebay supposedly sold by Energy Suspension (prob not), but anyway I've had it for like 9 months now. I did the front, rear (not installed yet / lazy) and the transmission side. Bought an Avid mount for the passenger side since you can't do anything to the stock one.

No complaints.
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