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Old Sep 13, 2009 | 09:02 PM
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ok well heres whats happening, i blew my head gasket last friday, i got a 97 ex coupe ls-vtec turbo is jumped back to obd-1 if it matters.. So here it goes i got a new one installed it nd everything is back together now it just wont start at all... is perfectly timed right, i checked all the fuses, got a new cap/rotor/plugs and wires, new coil and still no SPARK. Anyways, so i opened up my dizzy tooked the igniter module nd went to autozone to get it tested, so turns out is good. So the only thing i can think of is either the main relay or whole dizzy. Also, whenever u start ur car u normally hear 2 clicks one for the fuel pump and the other one for the ecu, i dont hear anything at all and the CEL comes on too right away and doesnt go away.. any others can help me please???

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Old Sep 14, 2009 | 03:51 AM
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Default Re: NO SPARK...

Check your grounds for the engine that happened to me last week you at least need two. also try the starter by connecting a wire from the starter switch plug straight to your battery... LMK if it works
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Old Sep 14, 2009 | 04:18 AM
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G101 at the thermostat housing is probably not connected.
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Old Sep 14, 2009 | 05:10 AM
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Sounds to me like a problem with the PGM-FI Main Relay, but it has nothing to do with spark, it supplies power to the fuel pump, [fuel pump relay] and power to the injectors, ECU/ECM and some engine sensors/valves.

Can you hear the fuel pump prime the fuel lines when you turn on the ign. switch to run?

When you turn the ign. switch to run you should hear a "click", [it is actually 2 clicks but they are so close together it sounds like one] at the same time the CEL should turn on and you should hear the fuel pump as it primes the fuel system for a few sec, you should then hear another "click", [fuel pump relay turning off] and the fuel pump will stop priming and the CEL will go out. if this is not happening your problem is at the PGM-FI Main Relay, either the relay is bad or wiring to it is bad, I would drop the PGM-FI Main Relay and test the wiring going to it, you will need a multimeter or at least a 12V test light. 94
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Old Sep 14, 2009 | 12:17 PM
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ok got me a main relay from a friend and i used his ecu and still nothing so i check everything again twice and i guess i blew the ecu fuse located under the hood in that fuse box.. now i hear the 2 clicks but it still wont start, just replaced the plugs and still nothing, only thing i can think of now is check for spark!???
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Old Sep 14, 2009 | 05:52 PM
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Can you hear the fuel pump?

Does the CEL go out after a few seconds of the ign. switch being on, [once fuel pump stops priming]?

after trying to start the car..
Pull a spark plug.
Does it smell of gas, is it wet with gas?
Plug the spark plug lead onto the spark plug and ground the spark plug, [treads] to any ground point, [engine block] and have someone turn ign. key to start, check for spark at the plug, if any what kind of spark is it, bright blue that you can hear "crackle" or a weak white/red spark with hardly any sound? 94
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Old Sep 14, 2009 | 10:49 PM
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Default Re: NO SPARK...

Originally Posted by fcm
Can you hear the fuel pump?

Does the CEL go out after a few seconds of the ign. switch being on, [once fuel pump stops priming]?

after trying to start the car..
Pull a spark plug.
Does it smell of gas, is it wet with gas?
Plug the spark plug lead onto the spark plug and ground the spark plug, [treads] to any ground point, [engine block] and have someone turn ign. key to start, check for spark at the plug, if any what kind of spark is it, bright blue that you can hear "crackle" or a weak white/red spark with hardly any sound? 94
ok did that i get spark and fuel... i tooked out the plug and its covered with fuel so i think at this point is should be timing! cuz theres spark, fuel, grounds are ok, ecu is good, i tried many times the 180 out on the dizzy and still nothing??? any other suggestions???
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Old Sep 15, 2009 | 06:04 AM
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Default Re: STILL WONT START....

How good was the spark?

Have you checked to make sure mechanical timing is correct, [cams are in correct position]?

If you have fuel, [and fuel pressure is good] and spark, [and it is a strong spark] it can only be timing.

Have you done a compression check, it should still start, [unless really bad] but a compression check can't hurt. 94
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Old Sep 15, 2009 | 10:45 AM
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Default Re: STILL WONT START....

Originally Posted by fcm
How good was the spark?

Have you checked to make sure mechanical timing is correct, [cams are in correct position]?

If you have fuel, [and fuel pressure is good] and spark, [and it is a strong spark] it can only be timing.

Have you done a compression check, it should still start, [unless really bad] but a compression check can't hurt. 94
i'll do that, i'll check the timing again nd check the compression too..
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Old Sep 15, 2009 | 12:39 PM
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Did u get it to start???
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Old Sep 15, 2009 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by :::SIRll_EJ1:::
Did u get it to start???
i havent checked yet cuz im at work, but as soon as i get home ill keep it updated..
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Old Sep 15, 2009 | 10:22 PM
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finally it started, it wasnt timed right, thanks guys!!!
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 12:52 PM
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congrats!
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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 07:01 PM
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Default Re: FINALLY GOT IT STARTED...

cool
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