I came out today like usual. Got in my Fit, put on my seat, and started it up. I then waved to the wife and daughter, and backed out my drive way. I noticed that the entire ground underneath the car was wet. I figured it wasn't a problem until I noticed my Oil light was on. I pulled back into my driveway and popped the hood. Nothing there so I looked underneath the front of the car, and Oil was flowing out of the bottom of my engine like a Water Faucet. There is oil everywhere, and the dealer where I purchased it from (Bobby Rahal Honda) won't give me a straight answer on repair. I also asked them to tow it to the dealer to prevent my engine from seizing but they claim that they are not necessarily obligated to until they determine who is at fault. My 2009 Fit Sport has 20,000 and all scheduled maintenance was performed by the dealer, but somehow it could be my fault. I don't think so Bobby Rahal Honda.

Is it possible to designate what dealer preforms all your repairs? I am thinking about having all the service done at a different dealer.

 

You can take it to another dealer ship and they will work on it, it doesn't matter if it is the dealership you bought it at. Also you should have Honda roadside assistance still you can call them and they will tow it to the dealership for you.

 

How many miles do I have that for?

 

You don't even need a dealer for service. You can take it to ANY independent auto repair shop. But for the very best security for your car, CHANGE YOUR OWN OIL.............

 

Well they did the last oil change so this problem is on them. I hated arguing with them for 8 hours before I got them to agree to tow it to them. I finally got it to the dealer and I was given a loaner car. My driveway, and the rear of my car is covered with oil.

 

Congratulations on your success so far. I hope that it ends well for you. You will find hundreds of horror stories on all car forums about sloppy work at dealers and quick-change oil franchises--- over-filled, under-filled, loose drain plug, forgotten crush washer on the drain plug causing leaks, oil fill cap left off, and wrong viscosity oil used in the fill. All are potential disasters that you can avoid by doing the job yourself in 10-15 minutes.

If you have the interest to follow this advice, I also suggest that you install the Fumoto Oil Drain Valve (model # 106 or 106N) from Lubrication Specialists located in WA. It makes oil changes even faster, and eliminates messes and spills. No more washers to buy.

 

I will look into that. Just so you know, after 8 long hours of trying to get the dealer to pick up the car. They finally agreed to pick it up and give me a loaner. Today around 9:15AM I get a call that the drain plug was missing and there was no oil in the engine. Before I could say anything he quickly says that he wanted me to know that they took care of everything and they could personally deliver my car back to me. They also offered to take care of my state and emission inspection for me.

It was their way of saying they screwed up.

 

Man, you are LUCKY in many ways. Chief of which is that you started your trip in the daylight and saw the oil puddle and warning light immediately, before the engine siezed up from lack of any oil at all. Next, the dealer grudgingly picked up the car and saw how badly they screwed up. Not everyone has the ability to do their own maintenance, but for those who do have the ability, your experience is a great big warning---------------

if you can--- DO THE WORK YOURSELF.

P.s. The name of your town is ironic due to the nature of your recent problem! (Apparently, there are no REAL mechanics in Mechanicsburg!).

 

at the dealership i work at its happened i think only twice in the past year ive been there that cars have come back with a missing drain bolt and many with ones that were loose...

whats at fault? honda preset torque wrenches....the lube/express techs here are told only to tighten until it clicks....and apparently quite a few have come back...when i use to use them i always did another quarter turn more than what the preset wrench.

 

You also need to look at the sheer volume of how many cars they're doing in a day. When I worked at a dealership, there were easliy 40 cars a day moving through the lube racks. Open M-F, then superbusy on Saturday so just M-F thats 200 cars, so close to 1k cars a month. Even with a 99% perfect rate that 1% is still 10 cars a month that have issues.

 

And at the Toyota dealership in Santa Cruz, a lady friend of mine had them change the oil on her Camry, drove 5 miles home where the low oil warning light came on. She checked under the hood and found oil splattered everywhere, and no oil cap on the engine.

If you have the skill and the space, DO THE WORK YOURSELF.

High volume of cars through the shop is absolutey no excuse for a loose oil drain plug. If you can't do that properly, just think how many wheels are falling off all over the country from tire rotations that are done with the same improper methods (and excuses).
DO IT YOURSELF!

 

so many people end up with warped rotors because of improperly tightened wheels.. those stupid "torque sticks" do not work. my wife has had this problem once already and it is back again. she went to the dealer and they said it was bent wheels.. i told her screw it and we'll just buy a set of rotors instead of getting them turned AGAIN. no nearly as big of a deal as you man. but still sucks. glad you are smart and shut her down.

 

oh its the torque wrenches i know that at my dealer but yea the guy saying about the amt of volume is true i go through 12-20 cars a day and i have only had one come back in the last year which was a messy subframe apparently i didnt get all the oil off and a drop or 2 got on the owners garage floor but....when i read the log of comebacks from our dealer so many people no matter what skill level express to A tech...have f*** ups and stupid ones too nonetheless

 

Yo jrzy-

(My wife's home town is Newark), I don't intend to insult you or any other Honda dealer imployee, except for the ones who leave the oil cap off or leave the drain plug loose, or whatever the hell. If a Fit owner has, or can learn-by-doing the skills to do his/her own maintenance, all of those people can avoid disaster caused by "Honda Techs" who are inept, or having a "bad day". When it's YOUR car, you WILL notice oil drippng out of the drain plug, and the big empty hole in the valve cover where the oil cap came from. After crawling out from under the car from retrieveing your wheel chocks, ramps, and lowering the jack. With a Fumoto Oil Drain valve, you can't have a leak from the drain plug, and it is a 15-20 minute job including lifting the car and draining your oil drain pan.

Not all dealer service workers are idiots, but luck being what it is, if you leave this simple work to others, you are very likely to be a victim, not a winner. If you are lazy and "lucky", bring your car only to jrzy2ner. CA owners, tough ****.

 

The main thing I am worried about is the warranty. As song as I have the limited warranty I do not want to touch the car. I was planning on buying an extended warranty.
This dealer has screwed up on my Prelude but claimed that it wasn't their fault because my Prelude is modified. I was driving down a busy interstate when my Prelude completely died. They didn't have the Dizzy wires clamped and my intake was off.

 

It is illegal for a dealership to deny warranty coverage simply because of any modification, unless the modification caused the defect in the car. Read the Magnuson/Moss act. If you keep accurate records of your maintenance along with the receipts for the materials that you used (oil, filters, etc.), dealers cannot legally deny warranty coverage. Your ignorance and paranoia just leave you wide open for more abuse from the dealer.

Understand that the term ignorance is not intended as an insult. What you don't know, you are ignorant of. Apparently, you don't know the things that I just told you, but you can easily find proof with just a little research.

 

It is cool, I know the actual meaning of the word ignorance. With my prelude, the only thing I did different was replace the block and head with a JSPEC Engine (H22A, instead of an H22A4) Everything OBD2 was still on the car, including the ECU. They found 17 recalled emissions parts, and claimed they did not have to do anything because the engine was modified. I did call around for help, and everyone claimed they were correct.

As far as the fit is concerned I plan on modifying it, by installing a Kraftwerks SuperCharger or a K20. If I keep it I may just give it to my wife.

 

OK- on forums, it's hard to know who understands plain English. FYI- on another, Fit-specific site poplulated by ignorant children and egomaniacs, Kraftwerks posted that they have no plans to make s/c kits for the '09 Fit. And, do I understand correctly- you intend to either supercharge, or change the engine entirely, and THEN give it to your wife?

Wild guess--- are you married to Danica Patrick ? (If so, I retract all of my sympathy over the "big oil leak dealership screw-up"). IN that case, I would be jealous, and wishing you even more bad luck (just to balance the scales).

 

dont bring your car to me im getting tired of working on cars lol....but yes I advocate if you can work on your car please do it your self....when there ever is something I cant do to my cars I make sure someone who knows more than me is there to watch and instruct me what to do...or i just read IN lol (honda's database)