Ok I just bought a 2000 s2000 and I need some help on the noise the car makes. When i say noises I mean the drive shaft and rear end noises. The car has a 05 ap2 rear end and a stage 3 exedy clutch and 9lb flywheel dont ask me why i bought it like this but any ways its really tuff to drive it seems to make shuttering noises and some other noises involving the rear end sorry Its just so hard to explain. Basicly what are the normal noises these cars make with drive train and such...

then again sorry for the noob question this is a whole new world to me haha...

 

well the ap1's usually have clutch buzz when u decelerate in a gear somewhare aruound 5-3k rpms thats all I have ever had with mines but cant hear it with my exhaust

 

nah the shuttering noise is clutch chatter. your clutch isn't an OEM disk clutch, its a 6puck or 4puck clutch with probably a stiff pressure plate (your pedals stiff correct?)

its normal but you should learn to drive it smoothly, when engagement of the clutch begins you should already be adding throttle. trust me, it's a good thing for spirited driving and a better mod than I/H/E for a N/A car

 

agreed, its a poor mod meaning its a little much for your car at the moment but if you plan on upgrading in the near future then youll be alright.

 

thanks this makes me feel alot better, I plan on taking it out a putting a oe spec making it more suitable to drive and plus i dont have big plans to mod this car motor wise for a long time...This is good info and if anybody else has some more in put please.


thanks agian

 

could I be hurting anything or is it just going to be a ruff and noisy ride....

 

If you're not boosted thats a pretty heavy duty clutch to have. I believe the exedy stage 3 has a torque capacity of 247 ft/lbs. I think switching back to the oem clutch would fix your issues. Then you could either sell the other clutch or save it if you plan on boosting down the road. But from the sounds of it you probably wont need it anytime soon.

 

well that depends how strong your pressureplate or which one you have, if you have a stock pressure plate and you have a clutch that grabby if you don't rev-match enough the pressure plate will get shocked hard enough to shatter into bits but for the most part no you're not damaging anything.

i've grown to like the feeling of extreme clutch setups, that way no one can drive my car and if my alarm were to go off and i hear a stall shortly after, you bet your *** im grabbing a weapon and going outside

 

a carbon Kevlar disc is sufficient with the pressure plate that you have i dont know if they offer anything higher than a stage 2 for those but i have a stage 2 clutch system rated up to 275 ft/lbs of torque and daily drivability is great with my boosted setup with 350 hp.

 

how you like fort gordon? im stationed at fort bliss in el paso. cheers to being in the military. army for life

 

What en excellent security tip! - brilliant, i'm in..

 

Fort Gordon aint too bad. Being a Marine on an Army base can be quite interesting. Apologies for getting off topic. But back on topic that is a pretty good security idea dagle. Have to agree with bigmac on that one

 

OK I found out what type of clutch is in it Exedy Hyper Single Plate Clutch modle HH01SD This is a 1200 dollar clutch does any body want to buy it ony has 6000 miles est.. Cheap Ill let it go for 400

 

Dang man for 400 Im tempted to buy it and sell it for more...but alas I have no 400 to take the risk with

 

This doesn't make sense. Why is it a poor mod?

If you upgrade power later, are you going to have 100more HP and more torque at IDLE? No.

When you take off from a light (just off idle) with a performance clutch, it's going to chatter. It's not a big deal. My Exedy Hyper single not only chatters, but it makes a noise like a panther is in my trans.

Obviously, launching the car is going to be harder on the drivetrain since the clutch has less give, but besides that, it's not a big deal.

It's just a little chatter. Just learn to ignore it.

 

Why are you selling the clutch?!!

That's an awesome clutch. Just learn how to drive it smoothly. I have the same clutch and I love it. It's noisy and rough, but is FUN. Then again, my car isn't my DD and I use it for HPDE track days often.

But still...even if it was my DD, I would still love the clutch. After you go back to stock, it's going to feel smoother, but more mushy and less crisp. It feels weird driving my friend's stock S2000.

You're not hurting anything unless you're driving like a hooligan...in which case, you're hurting stuff anyway.

Meh...whatever. Someone's going to get a great deal off you for $400. If you sell it, you'll need to buy a replacement clutch and flywheel. The Exedy comes with it's own flywheel.

I got mine brand new for $900.

 

thanks to everyone with helpful info s2000 owners are so much cooler lol.

 

thats what im sayin B. without all the other performance enhancing mods there really isnt an excuse to put that much more strain on the drive train. if you like it then thats fine. there are alot of things people like such as CF wings, altezza taillights, and 6000k headlight bulbs. my point is that if you got a setup that requires you to have a clutch like that then great but to just have a clutch to put additional strain on the drive train which equates to more wear and tear with more city driving then whats the point? i know with my s2000 i want take care of it and make it last so it holds more value in the long term. but thats just me. gotta see it from all angles.

 

How does it put more strain on the drivetrain, though? Unless I'm launching it constantly or something....

Maybe the chatter itself is putting a bit more strain on the drivetrain, but it's not really a big deal.

The pedal effort is light, and the inertia of the clutch is low. So it's not like the drivetrain is being hurt by clamping loads or anything. Low inertia clutches are better for fast gear changes or any gear changes. The synchro has to work less hard to stop the shaft from spinning. So in that respect, it's easier on the drivetrain than the stock clutch.

However, if you're slamming gears and driving it real hard or not rev matching...you'll break something faster. I agree with you on that one. In that case, YOU'RE the one being harder on the drivetrain...not the clutch. You're the one driving the car...so you'd be the one abusing it too. I get your point that a stock clutch will mask abuse better than a performance clutch.

LOL...that's probably the reason the car has a new diff in it. Previous owner may have been launching it hard or may just not have known how to drive it.

Like I said before...it just takes practice to get it smooth. I've been able to drive mine smooth after I put like 500 miles on it. I alternate between my S2000 and my EM1 (EM1 is my dd). My EM1 has a mushy sloppy stock clutch that's on it's way out. And I'm still able to drive the S2000 smooth every time I get in it.

This clutch was a BEAST before I broke it in. The first day I got the car back, the clutch was more like an on/off switch than a clutch. I didn't stall it...but both my friends did. But now there's some modulation and it's pretty easy to drive.

I like that it revs up and down fast. I find that rev matching to high RPMs is a lot nicer/easier. Again, I track my car often...so that's a good thing.

I don't think you can compare my clutch purchase to the purchase of rice burglar items like altezzas, useless wings, and 6000K hids. My clutch is functional for my purpose and it makes my car more fun to drive.

Plus, I'm thinking I might go F.I. later.

 

there you go then. this is you. now look at him. he has the info he needs and that is all im trying to say. the proof is there that the clutch paired with the driver can pose damages. im not trying to fight with you but if the dude has already changed his rear end then my point goes proven.

 

I have blown 2 diffs on my stock clutch. Wouldn't ever put another in my car.

 

maybe you tune to much?

 

Did you check your CV joints? I red same problem with the other forum, maybe it is honda's problem eh? http://purehonda.com/forum..

 

i need proof of this.

i youtube'd a clip of a panther's growl and if your clutch sounds anything like that, i'd automatically **** bricks.

 

lol I'm not lying. It sounds like a bad power steering pump or something. Every time I move up the driveway or slip it for any other reason it goes "rawwwwrrrr" and the "rawwwwrr" changes pitch and tone as I rev the engine. My car's black...so me and my friends likened it to panther when we were laughing about it as I pulled it into my garage one day.