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Old May 27, 2009 | 09:32 PM
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Hey, does anyone have a diagram which marks the designation of the pins for the fog switch for a 92-95 civic?

I have both an aftermarket and an OEM switch and they are both wired differently. If you could, post a pic of what wires are connected thanks!

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Old May 28, 2009 | 04:01 AM
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From Hondaautomotiveparts.com

So I was doing a little bit of mixing and matching and let me see if I can get this right.

NOTE: This is for an OEM switch

TOP ////// Pinouts
=======
---------<---- Power (one side of the switch)
---------<---- Power (other side of the switch going through relay first)
-Switch-<---- Ground
---------<---- Illumination control
---------<---- Illumination control
=======
BOTTOM

Can anyone confirm this?

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Old May 28, 2009 | 10:15 AM
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Old May 28, 2009 | 10:25 AM
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OEM 5th Generation Civic Fog Light Switch Pin-out, if looking at the wire side back of the connector, with the clip facing up:

CDM/USDM:
1 - RED/WHT
2 - RED/YEL
3 - BLK
4 - RED/BLK
5 - RED

JDM
1 - RED/BLK
2 - RED/YEL
3 - BLK
4 - RED/BLK
5 - BLK

Want to know how to modify a JDM switch harness with your aftermarket foglights to get them to work like they are supposed to in North America? I'll put together a DIY. It's not very hard.
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Old May 28, 2009 | 11:15 AM
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Yeah that'd be great. Im just wondering what the pinouts are. The wire colors are irrelevant. Im using the wires from a defroster which has the same 5-pin connector.

Let me know if ya can get that DIY up, itd be a good resource here on Honda-tech.

Thanks!
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Old May 28, 2009 | 01:52 PM
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If you're wondering what the pin-outs are, then cross reference the CDM/USDM wire colours with the diagram you posted above for now.

Originally Posted by EJ2-Fluffy
Yeah that'd be great. Im just wondering what the pinouts are. The wire colors are irrelevant. Im using the wires from a defroster which has the same 5-pin connector.

Let me know if ya can get that DIY up, itd be a good resource here on Honda-tech.

Thanks!
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Old May 28, 2009 | 04:42 PM
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Thanks for that - im going to take pictures of the aftermarket fog switch to see where it goes. Ill post up a pics asap.
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Found an interesting thread here on the board: Has a nice diagram as well.

https://honda-tech.com/forums/showth...et+fog+diagram
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Originally Posted by Relic1

C915-hot at all times
C916-hot at all times
C917-hot in RUN
C918-hot with light switch in HEAD or PARK
C919-hot in ACC or RUN

directly from the Helm ETM 6-2. Worth every penny if you're doing this much work.
// Reference: https://honda-tech.com/forums/showth...highlight=c916

Okay so here are some pictures I took of the fog switches. I thought I bought an OEM switch, but I think that its the OEM-style switch that has the faceplate of an OEM switch. Go figure? I might've been ripped off, but that is besides the point.


This is the supposedly OEM switch I received. (Frontside)


This is the EG Civic OEM-style switch (Frontside)


This is the EG Civic OEM-style switch (Backside)

I want to hook up the lights so that the when the parking lights are on, the fog lights go on. I realize that is needs to be hooked up to C918. However, when I did this, the illumination of the switch is always on even when the parking lights are off.

I want to switch everything over to OEM when I have the chance. I need the brown plugs that go into the fusebox and the brown plug for the plug hanging off under the dash coming from the firewall.

Hondautomotive parts fog light accessory installation: http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/.../16603_04.html
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Old May 28, 2009 | 07:40 PM
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so you wanna use the switch or not? if you just wanna have the fogs on when the parking lights are on you dont need a switch you just need a 5 pin bosh style relay
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Originally Posted by EJ2-Fluffy
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TOP ////// Pinouts
=======
---------<---- Power (one side of the switch)
---------<---- Power (other side of the switch going through relay first)
-Switch-<---- Ground
---------<---- Illumination control
---------<---- Illumination control
=======
BOTTOM

Can anyone confirm this?
and this i just dont understand
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Originally Posted by Murk 'EM
so you wanna use the switch or not? if you just wanna have the fogs on when the parking lights are on you dont need a switch you just need a 5 pin bosh style relay
Yeah, I want to use the switch.
Using the relay, the switch turns on the relay which turns on the fogs. But, explain to me the connection on the 5-pin relay. Im assuming its going to be connected to the parking light VCC.

The pinout diagram is from looking directly at the pins in a vertical fashion from top to bottom.
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Old May 28, 2009 | 09:17 PM
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ok well you gotta find out wich wires are wich.. whtas ground whats power all that
get me the colors of what the wires go to and i can tell you how to wire it using a 5 pin bosh style relay
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Default Re: 92-95 Civic Fog Switch Pinout Diagram

Originally Posted by EJ2-Fluffy
// Reference: https://honda-tech.com/forums/showth...highlight=c916

Okay so here are some pictures I took of the fog switches. I thought I bought an OEM switch, but I think that its the OEM-style switch that has the faceplate of an OEM switch. Go figure? I might've been ripped off, but that is besides the point.


This is the supposedly OEM switch I received. (Frontside)


This is the EG Civic OEM-style switch (Frontside)


This is the EG Civic OEM-style switch (Backside)
Yep, you definitely got fleeced on that switch sold to you as "OEM". But, whatever, if it's got a real faceplate, then all you're left with as a "problem" is that the LEDs (if it uses LEDs and not bulbs) might not dim if hooked up to the dimmer. Other than that, it will function identically.

I want to hook up the lights so that the when the parking lights are on, the fog lights go on. I realize that is needs to be hooked up to C918. However, when I did this, the illumination of the switch is always on even when the parking lights are off.
To help you resolve this, I'd need to see how your current harness is wired. This, however, is NOT how CDM/USDM OEM foglights are wired. OEM foglights in North America can only be illuminated while the LOW beams are ON. They turn off when HIGH beams are used. They cannot be turned ON only when the parking lights are ON, nor when all other lights are OFF. I don't understand why you would want them on with just the parking lights anyways? This cannot be to increase vehicle conspicuity while parked. This isn't how JDM foglights work, either. Does this also mean that they will be on at all times while your headlights are ON, too, LOW or HIGH?

I want to switch everything over to OEM when I have the chance. I need the brown plugs that go into the fusebox and the brown plug for the plug hanging off under the dash coming from the firewall.
The brown plugs can be found underneath the driver's side power window switch assembly on a 4dr 5th Gen Civic, under the rear window on a 5th Gen hatchback where the rear defogger ground wire enters the cabin, and (apparently) under the driver's side power window switch on some models of Integra.

Hondautomotive parts fog light accessory installation: http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/.../16603_04.html
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Originally Posted by DeSchlong
To help you resolve this, I'd need to see how your current harness is wired. This, however, is NOT how CDM/USDM OEM foglights are wired. OEM foglights in North America can only be illuminated while the LOW beams are ON. They turn off when HIGH beams are used. They cannot be turned ON only when the parking lights are ON, nor when all other lights are OFF. I don't understand why you would want them on with just the parking lights anyways? This cannot be to increase vehicle conspicuity while parked. This isn't how JDM foglights work, either. Does this also mean that they will be on at all times while your headlights are ON, too, LOW or HIGH?
Thanks for the quick reply. Well I originally had the fog lights wired to where they would only go on when parking lights were on. For example, if the parking lights are off, I would not be able to turn on the fog lights. If they were on, then the relay would have power, and the switch would be able to turn on the fogs. Honestly though, I don't really care. I would not mind having it the legal way (where fogs cant be on when highbeams are on). However, I realize that I would have to rewire it and kinda just want to get this going.

So the question is: How can I get this wired correctly? The wiring should be just like the stock OEM wiring under my dash. The only different with the fog lights is....the main power wire coming from the relay (which is inside the engine bay connected to the battery) runs from the engine compartment through the firewall into the interior. The red wire is then connected to the switch.

Any input is gladly appreciated!
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Originally Posted by Murk 'EM
ok well you gotta find out wich wires are wich.. whtas ground whats power all that
get me the colors of what the wires go to and i can tell you how to wire it using a 5 pin bosh style relay
The color of the wires do not matter. What matters is that for the switch, there are 5 wires (2 @ fuse box reference VCC, 2 @ ground, 1 @ 12v from battery).

From the fogs themselves, there are 4 wires and those are running through the relay first)

Blue (voltage to fogs)
Yellow (voltage from battery - 12v VCC)
Black (ground)
Red (wire that runs into the cabin of the car to the switch)
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Update: Got everything running the OEM-style way. Thanks for the helps people.

Now, to get these things to run the OEM way. Looking forward to a write up.
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Originally Posted by EJ2-Fluffy
Update: Got everything running the OEM-style way. Thanks for the helps people.

Now, to get these things to run the OEM way. Looking forward to a write up.
Here's the best I could do for now. Let me know if there's any part you would like clarified.

[FAQ] DIY: Convert JDM OEM 92-95 Civic Foglight Harness to OEM CDM/USDM Legal Spec

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Old May 31, 2009 | 05:04 PM
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Dude that is pretty awesome. Thanks mang
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