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b16a2 turbo or all motor???????

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Old May 18, 2009 | 09:55 PM
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Default b16a2 turbo or all motor???????

I just want to know what think all the people that have this spectacular engine!!! I donīt know what to do in my engine...

tell me your opinion
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Old May 18, 2009 | 10:00 PM
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boooost i got an em1 and kept na for years struggling to break 200 wheel hp
well long story short the block is at the machine shop and my turbo kit is waiting .
i guees it depends on you but i hated paying big bucks for 5 hp at a time
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Old May 18, 2009 | 10:44 PM
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I think its gonna end up being your preference. Id say go with all motor because of the nice throttle response you'll have and I think it would end up being more reliable just because not many people build their boosted cars up to handle it and it ends up blown. Whatever you do, build it right so it will last you or dont expect to have it for too long.
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 04:58 PM
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def all motor!!! more reliable and i think you will be more proud of the whp you gain than sticking a turbo on it and getting instant hp
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 05:23 PM
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Yes turbo does suck I guess 300hp on a stock b16 for 3 years is not reliable, if you like spending lots of cash for good throttle response then stick to NA.
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by bigD
Yes turbo does suck I guess 300hp on a stock b16 for 3 years is not reliable, if you like spending lots of cash for good throttle response then stick to NA.
what turbo set up are you running?
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 05:42 PM
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turbo FTW!!! And it is only UN-reliable if you got a bad tuner or just dont know what your doing
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 06:03 PM
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i dont really care for the b16a2 but one of my friends has a 99 si he built the head left the bottom end stock, basic bolt ons and is running a gt35r dual ball bearing turbo he pulled out 325 to the wheels on a tune by churhes 12psi
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 06:12 PM
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turbo all day!!!
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 06:16 PM
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you better build the ****er first and run low boost.
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 06:19 PM
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well depending on what ur power goals are, u might not have to build it up. 200-300 on a good running engine would be no problem. but i wouldnt go past 300whp. also boost is different on ever turbo so if u go boost dont set ur goals as psi set them as whp
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by jake 92eg d16z6
you better build the ****er first and run low boost.
wow, I bet your other 2 posts were as full of misinformation as this one.
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by buff1110
what turbo set up are you running?
just a basic log manifold, 57trim 63 ar turbo setup, your only as reliable as your tune so just dont go cheap on that and if your motor is healthy you will last a long time.
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 07:19 PM
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If you wanna stay all motor just grab an HB2 kit and drop in a J spec H22...180-190whp with TONS more torque than even a built NA B16

If your gonna boost it find a reputable tuner who knows what they are doing 275-300whp should be easy and cheap

With simple pistons and rods you should crack well over 450+whp with the right turbo

Power is never really the issue with an FI setup....its the clutch, the axles, the tranny, the manifolds etc...more gremlins to keep track of

Highway pulls....FI monsters kick ***

Cayon runs....built NA > vs laagy turbo setup

All depends on how you like to drive and what you find "fun" while behind the wheel

I can tell you right now with even just a basic J spec H22 you will pull ALOT of cars...once you get into the 230-260whp range it will be quite a little monster...but everyone can hear you coming a mile away

The boosted setup is slightly more sleeperish as they may hear the hiss but until your wastegate opens up its a pretty mellow sound whereas the NA setup just sounds louder even at 1/2 throttle

For me the biggest frustration was always cops and the sound thing....NA...more cops will hear/follow/harass you than boosted....so if cops are an issue in your area the boosted setup may keep you more low key and off their radar

The best part of the boosted B16's is they dont make as much torque so wheelspin isnt as much an issue as are the larger boosted setups that dont hook for **** on street tires...

I am currently leaning towards a G23 setup just because of how much fun it is to school people with a tiny NA 4cyl...they are looking for Nitrous/s/c or a turbo and all they see is a header and an intake...lol just 4cyl

Good luck...they are both fun and Im sure either way you will learn something new
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 07:22 PM
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I one read on here... "Getting NA power from a B16 is like trying to fill a swimming pool with a squirt gun."

That being said... and reading the post above mine, I would go FI if it was me. Turbo Hondas dominate on the street.
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 07:23 PM
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Default Re: b16a2 turbo or all motor???????

if you have not seen this thread, it would be a good read to see what setups people are using and the power they are making. https://honda-tech.com/forums/forced-induction-16/b16a-turbo-setups-1365747/
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