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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 05:07 AM
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ok well jus bought an ls vtec swap........i had it sitting for a while but when i finally put it in its like i ordered a smoke machine it smokes on startup idle part throttle and full throttle...ok feelin shity and thinking my rings were bad i go and check my compression what i saw was very surprising 300+ across the board so i dunno wat it is could it be the oil rings,valve seals,or headgasket???? please help appreciated
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 09:05 AM
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That just doesn't make sense...
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 09:07 AM
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thats very strange. gona try to think of something for ya
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 09:08 AM
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wow dude thats really really high like 13:1 CR do u know if it has high compression pistons in it or anything...i know you said you just bought it so im taking it you didnt do any motor work internally but i would get ahold of the old owner and see if anything is done internally
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 09:23 AM
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Maybe all the oil in the cylinders has increased the compression.
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 09:27 AM
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i had a clogged flex pipe that brought my compression up from 265 to 300. but no smoke at all.
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 09:34 AM
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it sound to me like there is something in the combustion chamber that shouldnt be there.. this would most deffinately explain the high compression. remove each spark plug and spray compressed air down into each cylinder to see if you can remove any oil, water, etc.. if the rings are bad and there is too much oil pressure causing blow-by then it may be a large oil buildup in the combustion chamber, again causing it to smoke and be high compression.
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 05:26 PM
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pistons are ctr.................but wat i wanna know is there any way it could be the headgasket.......i took off the sparkplugs they have oil on them
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by turbojdmhatch
wow dude thats really really high like 13:1 CR do u know if it has high compression pistons in it or anything...i know you said you just bought it so im taking it you didnt do any motor work internally but i would get ahold of the old owner and see if anything is done internally
you cant judge compression ratio by compression pressure.
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 05:37 PM
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First off, do you have adjustable cam gears?

When you did you compession test, did you pull the ECU fuse?

Obviously youve got an oil issue somewhere. Since the compression numbers are high I would believe it to possibly be the valve seals and not the rings. IF it were the rings the compression would be lower. If its the valve seals youre simply getting oil into the combustion chamber and its SEALING the rings. Therefore giving you the compression numbers you are seeing.

If you have adjustable cam gears then they may not be adjusted properly. With my motor with the cams @ 0 - 0, my cranking compression was well over 300. When I degreed the cams these numbers went down.

Report back with some answers and maybe I can help some more.
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by slambedcivic
you cant judge compression ratio by compression pressure.
of course you can:
http://www.type2.com/library/engineg/comrat.htm
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by SOHC_4dr
right...... and cam timing will not affect this at all <sarcasm>..... not sure why my compression changed when i degreed my cams. but some VW mechanic must have the answer.
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Old Jan 30, 2009 | 11:56 AM
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smoke on "startup, idle, part throttle, full throttle"

so all the time???
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Old Jan 30, 2009 | 01:02 PM
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300, how is the test being done, my gsr w/ b16 pistons was high 200's at 4 stroke if it was continued to crank would max out at 305.
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Old Feb 1, 2009 | 05:37 PM
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well i do have adjustable cam gears but i dont see how that can cause it to have higher compression
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Old Feb 1, 2009 | 06:11 PM
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are your cams degreed?
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Old Feb 1, 2009 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by jdmek2277
well i do have adjustable cam gears but i dont see how that can cause it to have higher compression
Advancing the valve timing will improve VE at lower speeds, thus increasing dynamic compression.
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Old Feb 2, 2009 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ddd4114
Advancing the valve timing will improve VE at lower speeds, thus increasing dynamic compression.

Thank you. I wasnt sure how to technically explain it.

On a side note. I bought a car from holmdel a few years ago.
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