my car had been lower and change the new tires so done the Alignment today and c wut u guys think? how's that compare to the stock setting? any info appreciated thanks
Before :
Front Total Toe: 0.06
Front Steer Ahead: 0.15
Front Right Camber: -1.98
Front Right Caster: -0.02
Front Right Toe: -0.12
Front Left Camber: -1.50
Front Left Caster: 0.09
Front Left Toe: 0.18

Rear Total Toe: 0.46
Rear Thrust Angle: 0.11
Rear Right Camber: -1.48
Rear Right Toe: 0.13
Rear Left Camber: -1.37
Rear Left Toe: 0.34

After:
Front Total Toe: 0.15
Front Steer Ahead: 0.00
Front Right Camber: -1.97
Front Right Caster: -0.02
Front Right Toe: 0.07
Front Left Camber: -1.51
Front Left Caster: 0.09
Front Left Toe: 0.07

Rear Total Toe: 0.25
Rear Thrust Angle: 0.01
Rear Right Camber: -1.49
Rear Right Toe: 0.12
Rear Left Camber: -1.47
Rear Left Toe: 0.13




[Modified by TillerMan, 9:39 PM 8/6/2002]

 

how does it feel after the alignment as compared to before?

 

Dude, who did your alignment... When I went to acura for an alignment they only did like 2 things:

Toe & Camber... fawkers

 

that alignment is horrible. kiss those tires good-BYE!

 

too much toe. camber looks good. more caster would be better too.

 

too much toe and i think the variation in the front camber is too far off.

 

shouldnt toe be 0?

 

too much toe.. the caster up front indicates some bent pieces, one shouldn't be + and the other - usually.. camber looks fine.

 

hey *****, how do you enjoy your new tires?

 

oh yea? too much toe? so i should take it and let them fix the toe to 0?

 

Type-Rare#1248: i like the tires but haven't try hard yet since i haven't break in the tires gona wait after 600kms to try it hard

i just called the shop whondid my alignment he told me the reason he set my car's toe to 0.07 it's because my car had been lower and he set that to prevent wear the tire that fast and i asked him wut if u adjust that to 0.00 for the front toe he said yea i can do that but the tires will wear faster since i am not using the stock spec .. that's wut the technician told me.. but i think it feels good after done that .. thanks for u guys info


[Modified by TillerMan, 10:48 PM 8/6/2002]

 

that is indicative of a lousy alignment tech. When they see lowered cars, they usually see out of spec camber. By toeing the car, they can get the camber closer to spec because of the caster angle (caster is what causes camber to change with toe).

Anyway, there are a lot of alignment techs that think that camber wears out your tires, when in fact it is toe that does. So by giving your car toe, they can make the camber "better" and think they are saving your tires when in fact it is just the opposite. HTH

 

The difference in the front cambers is about .5 degree, that's the same as my Integra. I have -2.5 on the right front, and -2 on the left front. Are all the Integra front suspension like this? When I first got my readings, I thought I had bent something but I know I didn't 'cuz the car has not been in any accident before. Now that I see TillerMan's alignment readings, I think this is normal for Integras. Agree???

 

Thats quite a discrepency(sp).........

 

i think this is really confused me .. dunno if i should let them adjust the toe to 0.. well camber can't do anything about it .. unless i have the front camber kit..

 

Tell them to set the front and rear toe to 0 total toe. It's a good starting point, it also gives you maximum tire life. From there you can work your way out or in after getting some track time.

CB

 

good advice so far

Vwong, I have similar variation in my camber -1.3 F left to -1.9 F Right

I also have 1/8" toe out in the front and zero rear.

 

thanks for ur advice of starting point .. so if i change the front and rear's toe to 0.00 wut will the camber be? so ppl who lower thier car u guy's front and rear total toe = 0.00? thanks