I need to replace front hub bearing so im upgrading instead of spending 300 on it. i am getting full gsr suspension brakes everything and need to know is it straight bolt on and for the brake lines should i pick up si's brake lines or get ss brake lines because the gsr are longer. All help and comments are welcome thanks.

 

The knuckles will bolt right up to your contol arms. Just because the brake lines on the GS-R are longer doesn't necessarily mean that you need new lines. You just need the hose not to bind or kink when the wheel is turned lock to lock. Stainless lines are cool, but not necessary. You should pick up the master cylinder, too.

 

oh yeah im getting everything. my car is just sitting in the garage right now and i need to fix it asap.

 

if i remember correctly, you also need the SI rear parking brake cables. everything else will bolt up fine.

also, you're not really upgrading your front brakes, everythings the same size. EX, SI, integra all have the same size front brakes.

 

I was told that the front knuckles from a GSR wont match up to a EK or EJ7/8 chassis. They are not the same shape. I just went through a front brake conversion from an teg, which are the same for GSR and LS. The Integra knuckle will give you a lot of positive camber, which you dont want.

When the site is re-loaded 100% check out BrakeExpert's thread on brake conversions for 96-00 civics. It will tell you to use either an EX or SI knuckle. The Integra knuckle will not work. Other than that, the caliper and caliper bracket are complete bolt on.

 

Actually the integra knuckle works fine. I have the front GSR knuckles on my EK and it bolted up fine. The positive camber is not even too great. When I got my car aligned I had 1.6* of camber in the front.

About the brake lines, i just used my stock ones. They fit fine

 

Just to further specify, my car is lowered about 2.5" all the way around. And I have 1.6* of negative camber

 

I am just going by what BrakeExpert told me and what he had typed up in his conversion thread. I know the suspension is different between chassis. If it works then that is news to me.

 

That is also why there are those who post advice from experience and those who post from what they "read." I think when giving someone tech. adivice, first hand experience is pretty cruicial.

back to the OP, again, it'll work. and again, I am stating the rotor size will remain the same as well as pad and caliper size. Although there is a differnet part number for the integra calipers vs. civic si/ex calipers. slightly different in design. And the front suspension (struts,springs etc.) will remain the same.

Pretty much what I'm saying is you can do the swap just to say "yeah i did a brake swap." Or you can step up and just replace your wheel bearing.

And If you don't wanna spend $300 on it, hit me up, I work at the Les Schwab in Fife and I'm sure I could give you a better deal then that.

-Zol

 

I do have first hand experience. I just did my Integra front brake conversion this weekend. I did the conversion on a DX however, which meant that I had to swap knuckles seeing as the stock DX knuckle will not accept the Integra caliper bracket. I had the knuckles side by side, and they are a little bit off in shape. The curve of the top part of the knuckle above the wheel bearing, that goes all the way to the upper ball joint, is curved less on Integras, than on Civics.

With all this aside, he already has an EX. The knuckle he has will work fine with the GSR caliper. This is the exact set-up I have on my car currently. I'm using Integra/GSR brake lines hub, calipers, and bracket and an EX knuckle.



The EX brakes actually have a smaller piston in them. They only run a 2", compared to the Integra's 2.25". Also, depending on what year EX you have, the pads are different as well, but they all still utilize the 10.3" rotor.


To the OP... I would replace the wheel bearings regardless. Might as well do it while they're already off the car. It shouldn't cost you $300 for parts and labor. I bought my new wheel bearings for both sides for $80 from Advance Auto. Installation time to get them pressed in shouldn't be more than 1 hr worth of labor, which around my area is about $94. Install everything else yourself and you're set.


As far as rears, if you are doing them, you can use the Integra e-brake cable. Its just a tad too long, so you need to use the adjustment screws to make it hold. The rear trailing arm will work on your car, but you'll need to swap out the rear bushings as the Integra bushings are offset differently than the Civic's. Also, you will need to use your stock rear upper control arm and compensator. Or, you could simply unbolt the Integra hub and spindle assembly and bolt it on your stock trailing arm. I believe they are a T50 torx bolt in order to remove them.

 

Here is the old thread from the previous version of Honda Tech from BrakeExpert.

http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:...093%26page%3D1

This should clarify any other questions.