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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 05:18 PM
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just recently something went wrong with the motor and i have white smoke coming out of my exhaust. i know it could be a head gasket but someone also told me that it could be a bad ring too...if this is a possibility then i would probably be leaning more towards that just because of the way it sounds when im driving it.. sooo how would i check to see if it is a bad ring without ripping the whole motor apart? TIA
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 05:23 PM
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Headgasket.

Bad rings you will have blue smoke coming out. (correct me if I'm wrong)
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 05:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cycopath &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Headgasket.

Bad rings you will have blue smoke coming out. (correct me if I'm wrong)</TD></TR></TABLE>

..ok well if its not rings then is there any thing else besides a headgasket that could cause antifreeze to get into the motor?
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 05:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cleanej2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

..ok well if its not rings then is there any thing else besides a headgasket that could cause antifreeze to get into the motor?</TD></TR></TABLE>

nope bad HG
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 05:51 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cleanej2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">..ok well if its not rings then is there any thing else besides a headgasket that could cause antifreeze to get into the motor?</TD></TR></TABLE>

its either a blown head gasket, cracked head, or cracked block. My moneys on the headgasket.
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 05:52 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by batallic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

nope bad HG</TD></TR></TABLE>

ok thanks.. is it normal for the motor to make a weird sound with a bad hg though?
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 06:02 PM
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You want to replace that HG ASAP!!! If you keep driving like this you can warp the head or block and it will never seal correct again.
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 06:08 PM
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im not driving it i only took it out to try to diagnose the problem..but any ideas on what the noise could be?
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 06:15 PM
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oh and what is everybody's thoughts on a cometic vs oem gasket.. i might be going turbo this summer so i figured id do it while its out now
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 06:22 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cleanej2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">oh and what is everybody's thoughts on a cometic vs oem gasket.. i might be going turbo this summer so i figured id do it while its out now</TD></TR></TABLE>

3 layer steel. I'm assuming you have a D15B7? I really wouldn't recomend turboing that after its blown a headgasket, its hard enough trying to keep them from blowing a second time naturally aspirated.
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 06:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94EG8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

3 layer steel. I'm assuming you have a D15B7? I really wouldn't recomend turboing that after its blown a headgasket, its hard enough trying to keep them from blowing a second time naturally aspirated.</TD></TR></TABLE>

forgot to mention the b7 was just swapped out for a b16a a couple months ago
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 07:50 PM
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no one knows what that sound could be??
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 08:03 PM
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well if it's white smoke, it CANNOT be your rings.

If it were your rings, you'd be burning oil. Hence blue smoke.

It sounds more like a headgasket.

Unless it sounds like a scooby....mine did when it cracked a sleeve. White smoke everywhere!
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 08:20 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jasony0630 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well if it's white smoke, it CANNOT be your rings.

If it were your rings, you'd be burning oil. Hence blue smoke.

It sounds more like a headgasket.

Unless it sounds like a scooby....mine did when it cracked a sleeve. White smoke everywhere!</TD></TR></TABLE>

there's really not that much smoke.. but something like a grinding/scraping sound when i give it some gas.. not so much when driving normally
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 11:24 PM
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any knocking??

try to do a leakdown test/compression test.
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Old Oct 16, 2008 | 12:38 AM
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ya i would compression check it and replace your headgasket, those are the exact things that were happening with mine before i swapped it out
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