Is there any cams for the sohc D-17 motor out there? Any cars that can be used to swap with? Im thinking of doing a motor build on an 01 civic lx. Im used to working with mustangs, camaros, vettes, and all the other simple engines with FI. It seems now all the little 4 cyl cars need computers, juice, and boost to make crazy power, which I understand why, it definately helps. But what happened to the good ole days where you had one wire connected to the engine from the ignition box? I want to see if I can do the same type of thing with the D17 only with FI. I know when the day is done ill have to tune it, but thats what flash programmers are for.

 

I guess no one else has the same vision as me.

 

 

while I don't have much as far as numbers to back it up, the usual conjecture on ht is that the d17 platform just isn't much good... probably why you haven't gotten much for replies...

http://crower.com/cat/import/h...shtml

there's one at least... for the A2...

just drop in a k

 

Ive thought about doing that or dropping in a B series, but I want to see how what kind of numbers the D17 can put up with straight motor mods. I want to stroke and bore out the block, port and polish the heads and put a new cam in it. Then ill mess with an ignition box and tune the computer for it. That way when someone with a motor swap comes up and asks what I have, I can say just a modded D17. Sleeper!

 

its not worth it the only way to make any power out of a d series motor is turbo if ur looking to do all motor swap it out especially if ur putting a whole bunch of money in. swap it and ull be able to make a hella lot more power from either an h2b setup or a b series. just my opinion a whole bunch of wasted money doing an all motor d series.

 

Ok, I understand where you're comin from. What would be the easier swap? B, K, or H series?

 

ur gonna get alot of mixed opinions on swaps the easiest would be a b series... theres a few good options next ide say if u have money to go k series they r the future swap and they make crazy power... best if u have the cash to back it up. and h series is actually very good but not to many ppl do it but its kinda cheap and they make great power and torque. wat car are you using???

 

01 lx coupe MT...Im looking for about 200-250hp.

 

1st of all a b or h isnt going to go into that chassis. the K is the only swap you will be able to put in and work with. If u have the funds cool.. go do that.

as far as a d17 build. you have several things going against you. that platform is hard to deal with all motor wise. next thing is the car is heavy and even if you make 150-160s, its still going to be slow. So the only option is to turbo that d17 if you really want to make it fast.

i'm the last person to knock down the d-series, but in this case, I have to. I just dont feel its worth it to build up a D17 in that chassis.

 

yup the 01' and up coupe wont fit b series and k swaps but like he said the k will bolt in and ide say thats the best one anyway it just costs money...

 

ide say do the k itll fit nicely in ur power range stock. all u need is a exhaust manifold with a good exhaust and an intake. tune it on hondata k pro and u can make 220's to 230 whp.

 

So your saying that even with all the engine work that would be put into it, it would only make 150-160hp? (for the D series)

Why wont the B or H series fit the chassis? Could I use different motor mounts?

Sorry for all the questions. Im just trying to get a good idea of what I should do. Thanks for all the info...the more the better. I dont mind spending a good penny on a good motor, but I wanted to do a motor build regardless...I was hoping to get a fairly inexpensive motor and use new internals. Also something that will be reliable.

 

im not to sure wat a fully built d series makes u can search around on here and look and see if its worth it to u but the k and b series dont fit b/c they dont make mounts for the 01' coupe chassis. but try searching around and look at some prices on k20 swaps i think thats ur best best. b/c u r trying to build all motor right?

 

ok, good deal. Ill look around for K series engines. I didnt know about the motor mounts for my chassis, good info. Yeah, im trying to do an all motor build, and later maybe a turbo setup. Depends on what I want later on.

 

for the money you would put into a k swap you could easily build a mild boosted d17. it would make more power than a stock k-swap and be pretty reliable (tuning dependant of course) exospeed mentioned this earlier.

 

wasnt the 01 SI a coupe?(b16)

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Horseofcourse &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wasnt the 01 SI a coupe?(b16)</TD></TR></TABLE>

99-00 Civic is the EK body has the B16. 01+ is a different chassis. Different D-series engine.

 

for some reason i thought the b16 SI ek's were 2000-2001. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

 

your only real options are k-swap or a turbo d17. All motor D-series are a waste of time in anything over 2300lbs IMO.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thehatchninja &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">your only real options are k-swap or a turbo d17. All motor D-series are a waste of time in anything over 2300lbs IMO.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Most of this statement is correct.... An all motor D17 is a waste....

 

You might want to look here for answers to your questions about the swap options.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/2247386

 

good FAQ...with that being said, if I went to a turbo D17 setup, what kit would best suit for reliablity and power. Also, would it be worth swapping out the internals if I wanted to only get 250 hp?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bobbyg5502 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">good FAQ...with that being said, if I went to a turbo D17 setup, what kit would best suit for reliablity and power. Also, would it be worth swapping out the internals if I wanted to only get 250 hp?</TD></TR></TABLE>

At this point, this really isn't a thread about a D17 All Motor build.

Here's where I think you should start doing some research: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1897200

If you have any questions, post in that thread.